British standards

Discussion in 'Carpet / Textile' started by carpetmad0701, Oct 3, 2014.

  1. carpetmad0701

    carpetmad0701 Member

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    Hi all, does anyone on here have a copy of bs 5325, i have got my master fitter exam coming up and didn't really want to part with £165 for it! I know it's a cheeky request but any help would be greatly appreciated!
     
  2. Distinctive Adam

    Distinctive Adam Well-Known Member

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    Is it not on google ?
     
  3. Cre8tiveflooring

    Cre8tiveflooring Well-Known Member

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    No, doubt you'll find it online. I remember seeing it for £65ish
     
  4. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Just make it up as you go along mate That's what I do :roll:
     
  5. willo87

    willo87 Well-Known Member

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    Can't you get them from research libary?
     
  6. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    must ask, why are you doing a fake exam that is not reconnised by any governing body?

    why not do a CITB accreditation that is official ?
     
  7. carpetmad0701

    carpetmad0701 Member

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    In my opinion and it is only my opinion the quality of work carried out by the Nicf master fitters is of the highest quality that I have seen, I feel the word fake is a tad offensive! I was asking for help/advice and do not remember asking for negativity! But hey everyone is entitled to there opinion!
     
  8. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Sorry you have taken offense. Sorry i will reword .

    How come you have chosen to do 'master fitter exam' over a officially government reconnised accreditation that is reconnised by the governing boards like CITB etc? Master fitter is not reconnised by ANY governing board .

    The CITB accreditation in flooring IS a higher standard than Master fitter.

    PS, ye i have the BS standards, what do you want to know, sorry i cant forward a copy as water marked with "committee member DO NOT REPRODUCE " I think i would get in trouble if i started sending out copies of BS standards. However im happy to help out with odd parts.
     
  9. carpetmad0701

    carpetmad0701 Member

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    No worries, I appreciate your help, with reference to the bs5325 I would just like to have a copy! The reason I am choosing master fitter is as I said before, after looking into the level of work from both parties I feel that the Nicf is of a higher standard. This I feel was backed up by the stands at the harrogate floor show, but that is not an attempt to discredit any organisation. I am proud of the trade that we are all in and anyone who wants to stand out from the crowd and improve on there skill level!
     
  10. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    so we are clear, im not knocking master fitters in any way shape or form. Im a master fitter myself and have been for years. I belive i still hold the record of being the youngest ever to pass at 19 years of age. Im now well in my 30's. I also won 3 times British champ to represent england in the european championships as team captain when back in my 20's so i know what standards are expected.

    Going back to my original question is i was asking you why you chose master fitter over CITB accreditation when master fitter is not reconnised by governing boards.

    O and at harrogate you never got to see any accredited installers preform? might of opened your eyes of just what skills accredited installers are capable of !
     
  11. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I was interested in doing both the Master fitter LVT test & the CITB LVT accreditation test @ FloorSkills & to be honest from what I've seen the difference in the skill level needed to pass each test is unreal ?
    I can't comment personallly on the carpet tests but The nicf master LVT test is a bit of a joke & far to easy
    Square bay no curves, no design work, no rebeveling & no setout skills required to pass WTF
     
  12. pf flooring

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    carpetmad message me your email address and ill help ya out with a copy, matt how much is the citb accreditation test at floorskills?
     
  13. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    4mill mate
     
  14. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Not as cheap as i would like unfortunately.

    Test is £250 + vat. However CITB dictate that you have to also complete a training course also.

    The reasons behind this are -

    The CITB (governing body) feel that you WILL require training to pass to the standards. If you was to take the test after doing someone elses course and you failed due to knowledge you should of learnt but didnt with someone else then the course has failed you. The way it works is we "floorskills" has to cover all training so if you fail its not due to us not teaching you something. IF FloorSkills never taught you something and you failed then a full refund would be given and floorskills would be in trouble.

    Bit like your kids going to school and failing their GCSC's due to the school not teaching them maths for example. The school would obviously be shut down by OFSTED (FloorSkills has OFSTED inspections, most others dont as not official training centers.)

    The other issue is CITB charge FloorSkills a hefty fee. The fee is to create a profile for youself like when you do a NVQ, you get a reg No, same for when you do a CSCS test. The accreditation is not funded in any way as its "technically not needed to do your job" so funding is NOT given to create your reg No. or add your accreditation to your original reg No for a previous NVQ or CSCS H+S test.

    Me personally i would like to offer it to everyone even if you have not done training at FloorSkills before as i know most will fail due to not learning what i would say is "basics" on other course out there. To me if you did another course and failed the CITB accreditation due to not knowing something you should of been taught else where, well that would prove the poor quality of training going on else where.

    Sadly i dont write the rules tho.
     
  15. pf flooring

    pf flooring Well-Known Member

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    Ok so its £300 in real money, and as ive previously done the lvt level 2 id qualify in being able to take the test which is a pass if your good enough, and its fitting out a bay like we did on the course start to finish bendy border all prep etc and its graded on quality of prep and finish isnt it?

    Think I will give it ago in about a months time, how much notice do you need to sort it out? im just starting a 1500m2 job so will try and work out when I can pull a sicky to get up there for the day.
     
  16. Distinctive Adam

    Distinctive Adam Well-Known Member

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    Carpetman, did you see the showfloor for the distinctive flooring lvt, that's accredited by a floor skills super fitter, he cut and re beveled 48"x9" planks and turned them into a herringbone parquet floor, on the back of that it's been decided that it will go into production and also we had a client want to order £75'000 pounds worth even tho it's not made yet.
    Another level IMO.
     
  17. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Yep as you have done the course you only need to do test. You can do it when ever you want.
     
  18. pf flooring

    pf flooring Well-Known Member

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    sweet will book up in a few weeks and give it ago.
     
  19. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Creative better order a couple of new blades for his guilly then...
     

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