I'm now subbing to a large company and it's all new build work, I'm thinking or getting a young lad as a labourer/apprentice to help me as it's long days and hard graft on your own does anyone know the ins and out of employing someone as a apprentice ? Got a lad calling me tomorrow who's 18 so does minimum wage come into it ? Thanks
Hope you get someone sorted 2 help you out. Im pretty sure minimum wage would be required. If i ever went down the route of self employed i always had the idea of getting a labourer on with the view to an apprenticeship. Dont know if any lads out there has done the same before?
depends on how you want to do it, id personally start them on cash in hand for the first month or 2 see how they get on if they like it and they are enthusiastic then stick him on a proper apprenticeship, site work isnt for all of us, ive seen plenty chuck the towel in, me I prefer site work to domestic work when subbing. Who you subbing to out of curiosity?
I was going to do cash in hand to start with as it's a friends brother then if they want to learn the trade teach them and get them in a apprenticeship. I quite like site work clear empty houses no mess etc, I'm subbing to Ray and Paul there in Peterborough
Site work isnt for everyone but for my money its better than domestic unless your supplying, like you said clear empty houses and brand new slabs so no uplift and then finding an issue, can get boring house/flat bashing to be fair though.
I was on 40 a day when I started so I'd say 60. It's difficult finding someone gone through a few myself including my brother. You know when there sitting down with the scraper doing an uplift.
£300 a week for someone that costs you time? They're not worth much till they can get on even with basics without you having to stop and show them all the time. That's probably why I'm still on my own. I'd take on a official apprentice but it would only be at the government rates until they start doing more
Agree with trimmer, I started on £30 a day back when I was 17 and it was built up at £5 a day as I got better and more useful for the first week or 2 they will be getting to grips with getting the right tools you ask for and donking skirtings for a while (get a pot of white gloss or tipex), id start them on £40 a day and then explain that you will top up their wages as they hit certain targets or if you achieve a certain amount of work in a week, that way it encourages them to learn and to want to get better so they earn more money.
£60 stuff paying a labourer that...that's £10 less then my dad pays me and I've been doing the job 9 years
I was thinking £40 to start with then make it more as they start doing more, let's be fair to start with there going to be laying gripper out humping underlay and tidying up
Way to much if you ask me, that is until they can actually start to earn you money. If you put them on apprenticeship wage its around £25 quid a day. Bare in mind that as a apprentice they should be attending a college , floorskills etc for training so you have costs of travel etc you need to consider. You basically end up helping them achieve a qualification with the bonus of being paid on top for them. They could simply do a full time college course and not get paid a penny. Like i say tho, when they satrt earning you money its only fair to pay them a better wage, but defo dont start them on that type of money.
Hell I rember being on £15 a week when I started rising to £23.50 after 2 years. Personally I think £30/35 per day is plenty (extra for a sat) rising as they prove themselves and are able to prep unsupervised.
i started on a £5 a day and was glad of it £20-£30 a day sounds about right until they can earn you money as Matt said
Young lad came with me yesterday and I was really impressed with him, his inisitive was brilliant and he did really well, paid him £35 for a 11h day and he was well happy
Dont count your chickens yet pal, it's only been a day! Give it a month (after he's done a couple pallets of mixing) when the novaltys worn off and then see if he's still an eager beaver..
Problem I've always had with labourers wages is who will work for £25 a day. I pay £60 min. I want someone to think that you haven't got them just to rip them off and actually work for you, if we do 12-14 hour days, nobody will stay around with you for £25,
What do you fit for £70 a day then? What areas do you work in? Am I right in thinking you were discussing going on your own last year and not working for your dads firm??
Apprenticeship is the way forward. Someone who wants to learn the trade and wants the extra hours. Not someone who wants beer tokens for Friday and Saturday night. Well we all want beer tokens but you know what I mean
