priming yes or no

Discussion in 'Subfloor Preparation' started by tommynett, Feb 9, 2015.

  1. tommynett

    tommynett Well-Known Member

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    do i prime before latexing if putting dam on top?
    if not can this blow of the floor? as it can blow in a normal situation where no dpm is required if i don't prime.
    or do i have really diluted mix so the primer can't break down?
     
  2. pf flooring

    pf flooring Well-Known Member

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    No primer if Dpm on top it will break down, if you are putting a dpm on top if has to be moisture tolerant probably be acrylic or latex and will stick to the floor, a waterbased wouldn't stick to the floor with no primer but couldn't live under a dpm.
     
  3. tommynett

    tommynett Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for for that, what stops it coming of floor if dusty etc? So if I do another job is there any point in priming at all? If your saying it will stick to the floor without?
     
  4. DM Flooring

    DM Flooring Well-Known Member

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    A piece of advice I got from one of the top lads on here is if its quite dusty wet it first.
     
  5. pf flooring

    pf flooring Well-Known Member

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    Hoover don't sweep too.
     
  6. tommynett

    tommynett Well-Known Member

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    Area needs building up to 35 mm should I not epoxy prime ?
     
  7. Wes

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    Something like Ardex R3E for beneath a dpm, but it's dear gear but it's also top gear..

    I've been back and forth with the question of prime don't prime under a dpm for ages. I had issues with pin holing from just using the damp down method. I got "don't use a non moisture tolerant primer beneath dpm" from Ardex tech (< Collin), and "you're ok to use p131 diluted 1:7 from f-ball" (< Graham).

    My advice is ring the tech of whatever product you're using. Your question is obviously pretty critical, so I wouldn't take the chance..
     
  8. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    I'm sure I read the ultra floor primer is moisture tolerance. Will have to check
     
  9. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Simply do teh job the correct way and thats always apply a moisture suppresent to the subfloor. Not a smoothing compond.

    Amazingly other countries dont have latex based compunds as a U.K product only. . So if they dont have them what are they putting down first ? ANSWER - nothing, dpm first.
     
  10. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    2 coat DPMs Matt? Some floors are rough so you won't get away with one coat
     
  11. tommynett

    tommynett Well-Known Member

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    Might just prime the floor with a good old can of spray adhesive !
     
  12. Wes

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    "2 coat DPMs Matt? Some floors are rough so you won't get away with one coat"

    Plus even after grinding, the concrete can be pitted which can result in pin holing in a one coat..
     
  13. Wes

    Wes Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha, you don't need advise!! You've got this sh!t boxed off :D
     
  14. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    unless you get the segments out....
     
  15. Cre8tiveflooring

    Cre8tiveflooring Well-Known Member

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    Grind, re grind with higher grit. Same as sanding floors. You wouldn't varnish after a 36 grit!
     
  16. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    Oh really... I 've been doing it wrong all this time then... :rolleyes:;-)
     
  17. Cre8tiveflooring

    Cre8tiveflooring Well-Known Member

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    Not if you ask spacey. Thought the grinded floor you done was dried screed lol.
     
  18. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    mint......
     
  19. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    Last week on site the other firm doing the karndean dpm'd straight over concrete floor (new build) with ardex 1c, next morning viens had appeared so ardex rep said give it another coat of 1c. I always thought it was NA first, Dpm then NA (so a sandwich) but according to the rep "not for that type of concrete floor"....have I missed something?
     
  20. Cre8tiveflooring

    Cre8tiveflooring Well-Known Member

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    If it had white veins it would have been a hair line cracks in the floor and that's the moisture in it. Mario showed me some pics of one last week.
     

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