How to identify anhydrite

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  1. Dan2223245

    Dan2223245 Active Member

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    Hi guys.

    We are currently going by colour and laitance to identify type of subfloor down.

    How do you guys do it?
     
  2. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Asking the company who put it down is a good start
     
  3. Dan2223245

    Dan2223245 Active Member

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    Asked persimmons and Barrett recently. No one on site had a clue.

    And trying to get through to the right person at head office is a nightmare.
     
  4. Peter A Lewis

    Peter A Lewis Well-Known Member

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    I am suspicious of any new build now. I always ask the builder if available. Appearance is a good start ( can look very similar to a floor smoothing compound), moisture reading can be another hint. It is getting more difficult!!
     
  5. merit

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    It turns to powder if you scratch the surface. But so does liquid cement. The colour is a give away but I’m sure there will be some companies that will change the colour of it. That sort of information should really be readily available from the builder or main contractor.


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  6. Dan2223245

    Dan2223245 Active Member

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    The builder hardly ever knows. Especially if they subby the bases.

    We done 3 David Wilson plots side by side one dark grey no lateince so standard sand cement.
    One with a badly laid powdery smoothing compound had to grind back.
    And one anhydrite.

    And since customer had come straight to us DW just fobbed them off.
     
  7. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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  8. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    There you go
     
  9. Samson

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    I always ask the builder or the site manager if the screed is anhydrite or calcium sulphate. They usually look confused and say: "what?" Meaning they have never heard of it.

    I then ask the customer for an email description of the content of the sub floor. Then I usually hear no more. Loosing lots of potential work this way. Rather not be involved to be honest.
     
  10. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    A good thing to ask the builder rather than what is it

    Was it laid before or after the walls went up?

    Anhydrite is always pumped in after the walls go up

    How thick is it ?

    Normally it will be around 35mm
    Concrete will be around double that

    Is there UFH ?

    It’s mostly used for UFH but not always

    If there’s UFH and looks like there’s fibres in it
    Then is concrete
    They don’t put fibres in Anhydrite

    Also it will be super flat
     
  11. mjfl

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    Not always super flat Spacey.. Whilst grinding most of the time you can see tamper marks or is that just on a Friday.. lol
     
  12. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Super flat compared to a lot of normal concrete floors :rolleyes:
     
  13. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    lol
     
  14. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Also we see mostly 50mm to 75mm thick anhydrite. Never seen one less that 40mm deep


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  15. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    I've had one a ft deep at one end and 7" at another.
    Bloody stuff :mad:
     
  16. dazlight

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    You can do the milk test to check it.
    Pour cup of milk on it. If it turns pinkish it’s gypsum if stays white it’s concrete
     
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  17. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    What if it’s strawberry milk ? Or chocolate milk ?
     
  18. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Really! Mind blown!!


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  19. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I have heard the milk test mentioned a while back but forgot tbo
     
  20. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Has to be full fat though doesn’t it ?
    Something to do with the lactose reacting with the callsium sulphate Milk is a great source of callsium That’s why plaster has that pink tone
     

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