Plywood on chipboard

Discussion in 'Subfloor Preparation' started by Samson, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. Samson

    Samson Well-Known Member

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    Hello all you Gurus on hard flooring and LVT.

    I believe that I have read on this forum, and I have adhered to the specification so far stated here, that a maximum of 6mm ply can be applied to chipboard. Why can 9mm not be used?
     
  2. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    That's not true 9mm ply is fine I rarely use 6mm
     
  3. burdman

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    me too, I’ve used a lot of 9mm


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  4. dazza

    dazza Well-Known Member

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    Minimum is 6mm. I usually just screed on chipboard. Easier and cheaper dependant on the job spec and situation.
     
  5. Distinctive Adam

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    Softlay it
     
  6. Paul

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    Screeding on chipboard gives me the fear . I’d always rather ply - then screed on the ply if it’s a level issue
     
  7. dazza

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    Don't see the issue as long as you use the correct screed and prime. It's basically latexing over ply. Also I get a better finish with screening
     
  8. Spacey

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    Which primer and screed do you use ?
     
  9. dazza

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    Renovation or na
     
  10. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Which primer?
     
  11. dazza

    dazza Well-Known Member

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    Well it's not pva .
     
  12. dazza

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    Prim grip with the renovation. Used it on chipboard,ply for several years and no problems.
     
  13. dazza

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    I know about what's been said before about not screening on chipboard due to the make up of it but I've never had a problem in all the time I've done it, yes there may be a time it blows on me and costs me to fix it. But I think you have that risk most of the time if screed hasn't been stored correctly etc.
     
  14. Spacey

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    Your defiantly taking a risk
    It is possible to screed over chip board with newer primers like Uzin PE680 and Fball prime and fill but Prim grip is questionable Not saying to doesn't work but I'd be interested to see how well it bonds to the chipboard.
    Main problem you have is movement in the chipboard The screed may stay bonded but your going get cracks through the screed where the board joins are which will show through a vinly covering.
    Always better to ply and I also think it's quicker plus you can start laying the floor same day dependant on the size of the area
     
  15. dazza

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    I'm not saying your not right in what your saying. But I put my faith in the products I'm using and follow there spec so if it goes pete tong it's down to them to put right. Same as if you sandwich na on 1c if it goes pop who's to blame? You or ardex! That's there spec.
     
  16. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    It's almost always the installers fault not the manufacturer
     
  17. Neilydun

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    Or, as Adam said, Softlay it.
    We have just used 500 sq. m of the product, and its very, very good.
    Our project, was an out of hours fit, with working hours 11pm-6am
    Lay Softlay, start fitting.
    Massive time saver
     
  18. Samson

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    Thanks for the correction. Is there any reason why a much thicker ply cannot be screwed to a poor chipboard floor, say 18mm?
     
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    This is new to me, but upon viewing the product I am interested, especially as we come across lots of thermoplastic tile floors. Is there an introduction YouTube or a one day installation course available? Can safetyfloor be fitted on top of it?
     
  20. Neilydun

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    Adam would be best explaining the full details, but we have just fitted 500sq. of safety sheet on it
     

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