Karndean "luxury" vinyl planks... Nothing luxury about them.

Ahh right so its Karndean Loose lay, missed that bit!

I was assuming it was full stick down lvt...

After the 28th revision of the loose lay I stopped using it.

 

As in you have had to try and fix that many installs of it due to gapping and the like?

Is this sort of problem I am having with it a common occurrence?

 

Karndean looselay Is awful. Is there any direct sunlight on the floor? That looks like chipboard, it should really have ply over it.


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In some spots there is direct sunlight on it, and there are gaps. But there are also gaps in areas without sunlight, like a hallway.

Sucks that I am learning what a bad rep this Karndean product has, we were sold in on it being a luxury product! We had a $120 per sq metre allowance for our flooring (originally quoted for engineered timber but we got sucked in on the Karndean sales pitch) and for essentially that same cost ended up with these floors

 

I was being sarcastic sorry, what I meant was they've revised this product I think 4 times now and since my last install couple hrs ago I just wont use it or push it anymore.

They design a loose lay to then tell you it now has to be adhered to the floor.

Should have been plyboarded though, your chipboard has probably sucked most of the adhesive in already.

The next go I would have them taken up in sections and just try a proper adhesive with a good notch, if that fails, rip it all out, dash it and start again.

 

Couple hrs?? Lol I meant Couple YEARS

 

Such a shame, you could of had a lovely engineered wood floor for that. Instead of those plastic slabs. I’m sure it has its uses but you’ve probably been sold it because it’s a easy money maker. Little or no prep, anyone can install it, goes down quick. Luckily for you I doubt it’s been installed to the guidelines so you should get them back


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Loose lay......it will move.

 

Yes, we're bitterly disappointed with how the flooring has played out all round. We had a goal in mind for the floors, hence the price we were quoted... but to end up paying $120 per square metre for these floors is a joke, it just looks so cheap and nasty.

We have had the installer out a couple of times to glue things down, then they even ripped out the planks (due to an apparent "bad batch") and re installed all new ones, making sure to use a liberal amount of glue so this didn't happen again... yet a couple of months later the gaps were all back again.

 

If only they mentioned that in the sales process or any of their marketing material.

"The perfect product for the homeowner happy to have gaps between the planks a credit card can be pushed into"

 

I think the main problem is that with the gaps under the skirting, doorways, etc.the floor has somewhere to move to, on most installations the floor is wedged in by the walls, as rugmunching said, a better adhesive, even possibly just on the perimeter, could fix the problem

 

Great commercial option when the job can get signed off, paid out and move on..

 

I take it that's because commercial are unlikely to complain so for installers it makes sense. For example, for something like a Daycare centre it does the job.

But in a house where the expectation and price quoted was for engineered timber floors or similar, and this was sold in as a similar alternative option, is this a good recommendation in your opinion?

 

Interesting. We have had installers that looked at the floors previously comment on the skirting boards and how the installation of them was odd and that they told the builder not to do it.

Not being a builder myself I didn't realise there was even a potential issue there.

How abnormal is it to have the skirting boards sitting on top of the flooring like this?

 

Personally no, I don’t believe looselay works within a domestic environment for the above reasons

 

Works ok for me skirts off as we use wet set HT adhesive the rolled over with a 55kg roller so it won’t be going anywhere

 

A lot of builders think it gives a better finish, the problem is the slightest deviation in the floor leaves a gap, the slightest deviation in the skirting leaves a gap, if the walls are not 90° or less to the floor, the skirting will lean back and leave a gap. But other than bits of grit coming off the walls (usually just after you've spread the glue),it doesn't cause a problem with fitting the floor, providing as Daz said, the floor is properly glued to the floor

 

But you’re not loose laying it, you are a pro and understand the pitfalls bud