Power stretcher

Discussion in 'Tool Chat' started by vman, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. oddbod_jnr

    oddbod_jnr Well-Known Member

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    buy you a pint mate
     
  2. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    BS dictates what size of carpet + should be power stretched (manufactures etc are involved in writing the BS)

    However, manufactories install methods over ride BS. Some manufactures dont agree with the BS and actually think 5 meters is to large. So for instance , manufactories using action backed carpets say that 'every' carpet should be power stretched no matter what the size is. (would love to see someone power stretch a W.C)

    What ever happens it should really be power stretched. But like i said before, there is other methods of installing that can eliminate power stretching.

    As for charging more? well you will find that when word gets around that you installed correctly and become a very good installer you will automatically charge more and people will pay it. They want you to do the work as they know you are better than the person down the road. For example, you want your bedroom decorating, you get a good quality decorator in, if you want your garden fence painting you pay some joey. Would you have joey (the fence painter) decorate your house?

    Belive it or not there are plenty of customers who will pay for a high quality install. The more me educate the public with forums like this the more will understand the difference between you and the person down the road and WHY you charge more. You will be surprised that once you have a name for yourself how many customers will actually happily pay extra to have you install the flooring.
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2012
  3. NathanKing

    NathanKing Well-Known Member

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    What other way would you say avoid power stretching then, stick down etc or just good kicker technique ?

    I suppose if I knew it were being done to manufacture standards I'd happily pay more.

    Does it void any guarantee not being fitted with a power stretcher ?
     
  4. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    its hard to explain .

    basically you make the room into smaller rooms. So lets say we have a 5x5 room. you start a stretch in the middle and then stay tack carpet (can only be done on wooden subfloor) . You have now created two rooms that are 2.5 meter each. Like i say its hard to explain.

    Also with the time being added you would be better simply using a power stretcher. The other method is a way around it but only really used if there is a reason you cant power stretch for some reason.

    As for guaranty, well yes it can void guaranty. Lets say you have a carpet that is wearing poor. A manufacturer can check tension of the carpet. What people dont realise is that the better the tension the better a carpet will wear.
     
  5. Manny39

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    So you are saying the majority of carpets fitted in England do not conform to BS standards, lack tension and are wearing out faster because of not being power stretched.
     
  6. Neilydun

    Neilydun Well-Known Member

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    I just can`t see it myself. O.k I don`t fit loads of carpet now, but I can kick out a through lounge, and get it tight.
    It`s very, very rare to get a re-stretch.
     
  7. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    what would say is the answer to that question personally ?
     
  8. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    so can i !

    But don't forget that a re-stretch means that the carpet was well under tension when fitted. Basically the day it was installed there was not enough tension.

    It is impossible on some carpets to get the correct tension without them ripping. The manufactures know this and these are the ones that say that every carpet needs power stretching.

    The carpet may lay flat without bubbles for 20 years, but if the tension is wrong the carpet will wear at a accelerated rate. Also the wrong vacuum makes a massive difference.
     
  9. Neilydun

    Neilydun Well-Known Member

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    I have a vacuum flask, does that count ?
     
  10. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Mate, they could save you willy from dropping off. I heard that a chap got stuck out in Antarctic for weeks on end. He put the vacuum flask over his willy and it was saved from frost bite.


    His fingers etc was knackered. Good old vacuum flask.



    ..... thinking about it..... i wonder what happened to his testes ?
     
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  11. Neilydun

    Neilydun Well-Known Member

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    I better get another couple in then....
     
  12. hobbit

    hobbit Well-Known Member

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    talking of power streching, was to do 2 bed rooms for a customer and the shop said "i would have a look at his lounge/dinning room" carpet as it had a wrinkel in it. Said carpet was fitted 4 years ago but the wrinkels only appeared 6 months ago (yea right). As it turned out the landing and hall also needed restreched (they were easly sorted).... the salesman said the man was to pay me...cont
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    At first i didn't have the power strecher with me so employed the deadman method as matt described, all that did was move bump around and turned it into a cresent shape, i was able to cut of about 10mm but the bump remained. Next day armed with the p/s, tryied streching as 2 seperate rooms (removing about 5mm from the oppisite end as of the day before), then as one full strech right through. I was afraid the carpet would tear. while trying to work out what to do next the punter said "you do know that the shop is to pay you for this" I said they told me that he was to pay me, but he said that it was part of the agreement when he bought the bed room carpets, I was outta there within 20 min after a little bit of bumping the knee kicker here and there.
    Oh btw I was not the origional fitter
     
  13. NathanKing

    NathanKing Well-Known Member

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    Nothing worse then fixing someone else's mistake
     
  14. simmo

    simmo Well-Known Member

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    There is one one *bay at the moment item
    number 261088156186 hope this helps

     
  15. coolevilangel

    coolevilangel Well-Known Member

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    Old one, but it'll do the job :)
     
  16. vman

    vman Well-Known Member

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    Thanks mate but it's miles away, bugger won't post it.
     
  17. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    same as mine, well sort off. my tubes are aluminum but a one off. (basically lighter but no better)


    Would the chap allow you to set up your own collection by courier?
     
  18. coolevilangel

    coolevilangel Well-Known Member

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    You can buy the Ali ones as well as the steel ones mate
     
  19. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    shows how out of date i am then! Still im sure wont be like mine as had mine made special LOL. (i had to drill my own holes )
     

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