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Discussion in 'Vinyl / Impervious floor coverings' started by Andrew70, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. Andrew70

    Andrew70 Well-Known Member

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    Hi lads looking at a job at a hairdressers about 100 sq meters in Karndean opus she is thinking,they have amtico down at the mo stuck on the old 417 adhesive look like they should strip up easy plywood under that,my plan was strip up wood smooth and lay. But she is now saying she does not want the mess and mither and the other fellea who priced said he can go straight of the top of the amtico,so what I'm asking has anyone used anything like instalay or anything similar or no of any ways of doing this cheers
     
  2. dannyboy

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  3. Andrew70

    Andrew70 Well-Known Member

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    I could mate that was one of my options it's just it's a bit of a nightmare shape with a fair few fixtures in that's why I thought I'd take the easy option and wood smooth it they want to shut sat at 6pm and hopfully open back up Monday morning if pos
     
  4. carl

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    i have heard of people putting lvt straight on top ! i wouldnt like to try tho
     
  5. ronbaldo

    ronbaldo Well-Known Member

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    Iv heard of people going straight on top of old lvts also. Actually seen a couple jobs where people have went over and they seemed to be decent enough for me
     
  6. coolevilangel

    coolevilangel Well-Known Member

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    the thing is, if it DID go wrong then you aint got a leg to stand on and are liable for replacement etc:rolleyes:
     
  7. SandyFloor

    SandyFloor Well-Known Member

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    That's how to sell it to the customer. Maybe even get them to speak to Karndean technical themselves.
     
  8. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    I've stuck camaro to the old Marley tiles on a hair salon before, I put the buffer over then first to get some of the old crap off the floor. The owner knew it was a total bodge and said he would take the risk. To be fair there was about 4 layers of tiles stuck under ours!
     
  9. preston7

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    I've never done it with vinyl tiles but I have had to do something similar with Polyflor and a double drop technique. I double dropped it because of concerns about where the moisture would go when the adhesive is trapped between two impervious floor coverings and everything went ok. I would imagine in theory if you are using a PS you would be fine as long as you clean the old floor properly as god knows what would have been left as a fine layer trapped on it over years of use & cleaning. I'd expect that would be where the problems would start. Still the question needs to be if it does fail, can you afford it if for some reason we have't been able to predict causes a problem? When I do come across a situation like this where I'm not 100% that's how I weigh it up because sometimes you can learn a valuable new skill but I need to know that I can afford to fix it if I have made a horrid misjudgement. Good luck though.
     
  10. Jambo

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    I'm with Danny, go for the plywood over the top. Ideally.... you would lift the originals but I know whats its like when someone else tells the customer "no need". We did a hairdresser about a year ago and managed to arrange a Saturday night,ALL NIGHT, Sunday to finish. We had to do a screed and plywood mix, so we used fast set and rubbed it back to smooth.

    They went for the Da Vinci Antique Ceramic Noir with met silver strips. Might be an idea to remind the customer that if and WHEN it starts to show bad scratches there is a product made by Dr Shutz that can be applied to fill bad marks and restore the over look. It has a glass powder in it and saves replacing multiple planks/tiles.
     
  11. oddbod_jnr

    oddbod_jnr Well-Known Member

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    what about a lvt clic that will fit over amtico no prob
     
  12. g4l

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    That's the same as Kdean Refresh and Amticos dressing.
     
  13. Jambo

    Jambo Well-Known Member

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    No, its heavier than that. This stuff also creates an anti-slip texture when fitted too. Its more suited to commercial areas than Refresh.
     
  14. g4l

    g4l Well-Known Member

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  15. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    Project floors sell it Steve
     

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