Cap and cove externals

Discussion in 'Vinyl / Impervious floor coverings' started by Robroy, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. Robroy

    Robroy Well-Known Member

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    Had to do a cap and cove today , I fitted the vinyl with cut on corner of the upright,
    has anyone got a different way of fitting the external as it seems a crap way to weld it together rather than welding on a flat area of wall ?
     
  2. Trimmer

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    You can "v" the corner so you get 2 welds at 45degrees either side of the corner.
    Do a search on youtube. There's bound to be something there
     
  3. mjfl

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  5. mjfl

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    yes mate, if you look in the thread about worst pictures you'll see another 2 from the same bathroom,I had to replace it as the previous contractors didn't do a good job so the customer reckons...lol
     
  6. peterr

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    you can do a V as suggested or as i suspected you took out the weld made it a nice joint a reweled as should have happened in the first place.At the moment there seems to be alot of fitters around who say they can do cove/cap but come a cropper when it comes to the welding !!!!
     
  7. peterr

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    couldn't type rewelded obviously !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. bournemouth

    bournemouth Super Moderator

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    Welding externals are easier than people think if the vinyl is cut properly in the first place as said above to many so called fitters claiming to be cap / cove fitters and then screw the welding, im currently working on a job with a bloke who is ****ing shocking and really needs to be seen to be believed, to many fitters trying to do jobs they havent been trained in and it does my head in, ive never been shown how to carpet a bullnose and for that reason I have never done one and will never do one the carpet fitters are welcome to it, if people havent been trained properly they should not be doing the jobs would a hospital receptionist do a heart bypass operation? aaahhhh bad day long day rant over time to get a beer
     
  9. Robroy

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    That what I was thinking , cutting a v at least your welding to the flat wall
     
  10. Robroy

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    sounds like your having a pop mate .......times as they are u can't be too fussy, reason I come on this forum is to pick up tips on things I'm not so familiar with and to improve myself even after 31 years of fitting, no one knows everything.
    tbh I had a guy doing my cap and cove but wasn't impressed with the last job he did.
     
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  11. bournemouth

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    Not having a pop at you or anyone on here mate if someone on the forum has a question or querie about how to do jobs ect they ask in posts and people reply with usefull info which 99% of tge time whoever is asking question puts into practice, ive spent 12 hours on site today cutting false peices out and re welding rooms that i didnt do then got home first post I read is about bloody cap cove weld ha I cant get away from it today, so no dig or pop at you just wanted a little rant and the mrs wasnt interested in anything I was moaning about christ I sound kike a old man
     
  12. Robroy

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    Lol........nothing worse than correcting someone else's cock ups
     
  13. peterr

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    Was looking after a job recently around 50 fitters all who are floorlayers and can do cove/cap but you would be surprised how many of them had trouble welding to a standard that most of us would put our name too.The V corner was introduced mainly in hospitals some time ago its supposed to make it more hygenic and easier to clean but rightly or wrongly you are introducing 2 welds instead of one which gives it an extra place to fail.I made a praticed board up for my people just as you would find at any training centre and you can muck up as many times until you get it right
     
  14. Robroy

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    I was thinking of doing it yesterday when I cut the floor in but didnt want to practise on a customers floor !!
    i was also thinking of the extra weld but if its a better job it wouldn't be a problem , practise required !! :)
     
  15. bournemouth

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    The v system I personaly dont like it and dont think its any way near as neat as a normal external as not only are you trying to cut of a upstand weld your trying to cut it off on a 45degree angle with the last bit curling on the cove former I have done it on a few jobs where client has asked for it but im not a fan myself
     
  16. peterr

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    totally agree sometimes the old ways are better and its much easier in my opinion to weld on the proper corner.As long as you leave a nice even gap on the corner so when you run the exatco down the cove it looks clean and straight bobs your uncle
     
  17. pf flooring

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    I thought when you do the wrap round corners its done without cove former anywhere? or thats the impression I got from the altro video on how to do it, or am I being stupid and misreading your post :)
     
  18. bournemouth

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    QUOTE=pf flooring;75620]I thought when you do the wrap round corners its done without cove former anywhere? or thats the impression I got from the altro video on how to do it, or am I being stupid and misreading your post :)[/QUOTE]

    Its one thing being shown how to do it in a perfectly designed area with nice flat straight walls fitted perfectly to the perfect flat floor, now lets forget that and come into the real world how many jobs have you been on where the plasterers finish flat to the floor and keep a straight libe for more than a metre? 99.% of the time you can not fit a vinyl up the cove without coveformer and make it look a perfect job the crease line will snake all along the wall but thats not to say you cant do it, when fitting the v system with cove former you can adapt the v to make it look half decent where it comes over ext mitre you may also change the the finish of the ext cove former to make it take the vinyl better, I have done an altro course where they came to us with there nice little int ext set up and showed us the no cove, way they really dont like it when you adapt with a hammer there perfect models then ask them to show you how to do it in site conditions :)
     

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