Abrade quarry tiles ??

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  1. Carpetfingers

    Carpetfingers Well-Known Member

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    How do you abrade quarry tiles to create a key for a wsm without making a right mess. What tools would you use, or do you think 1200 pro first then wsm then 300? thoughts please.
     
  2. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    You can't put 300 over 1200 ?

    300 is to strong nearly double the compression strength of 1200 so it would crack like hell & could pull off the floor !
    If you guns use 1200 first then best use the same on top or a screed with the same compression strength but can't see the point of buying 2 different screeds.
    Use a degreaser & screed over them with 1200 or NA if they are sound or rip them up & start from scratch ?
     
  3. pf flooring

    pf flooring Well-Known Member

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    cant 300 over 1200 pro, different strengths 300hd is off the top of me bonce circa 30nmm whereas 1200pro circa is 18nmm, the 300 would sheer straight off
     
  4. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    1200 is 16

    300 is 35
     
  5. Carpetfingers

    Carpetfingers Well-Known Member

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    ok, I get that but I need to put in a dpm (wsm) as aquant is reading in the red. Spoke to f ball and they said abrade tiles to create key then dpm tiles and screed over the top. You can use 300 over an epoxy which is over say green bag or 1200 i'm sure. back to original comment, how would you abrade tiles?
     
  6. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Can't u just degrease tiles then Dpm straight on?
     
  7. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    If its reading that high should probably take the tiles out
     
  8. Carpetfingers

    Carpetfingers Well-Known Member

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    There well bonded and level with a timber floor, karndean over both areas. will probably degrease and NA it. DPM then NA it again, 9mm sp101 over timber. thanks fellas.
     
  9. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Have you got a buffer/rotary machine ?

    You could use a grinding head or a copper disc ?

    But I'd defo wear goggle it'll make a right dusty mess !
     
  10. flooringman

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    I'm just on with a job like this. Quarry tiles in one area and then concrete in the rest.

    Tiles were firm and moisture reading not high. Used Ardex products (thanks for the help and advice Daz) and abraded the tiles with a Refina grinder and vacuum - not much dust.

    Ardex NA, dpm 1c then another coat of Ardex NA.
     
  11. tarkett85

    tarkett85 Well-Known Member

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    Prime with prim grip then latexplan dpm then latex again
     
  12. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    Got a massive prep next week. About 200m2. Granno, screed dpm.

    Going to give f.ball system a try instead of ardex.

    Stopgap 1200
    F77 dpm
    Stopgap 1200

    Cost wise cheaper then ardex.
     
  13. tarkett85

    tarkett85 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't think 1200 could be used under dpm? Or am I misreading spec sheet?
     
  14. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    Had this out with them at Harrogate. They said it is moisture tolerance.
     
  15. tarkett85

    tarkett85 Well-Known Member

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    Great news na a goner now then
     
  16. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I wouldn't say that 1200 goes off far to quick !
    It heats up like rapid 45
     
  17. pf flooring

    pf flooring Well-Known Member

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    Same technology as the super30 I believe
     
  18. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm using Fast track 30 on Monday ! First time so I hope its good coz the jobs an hours drive & the job is tiny so don't want to travel twice !
     
  19. Cre8tiveflooring

    Cre8tiveflooring Well-Known Member

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    Used it Monday on a 25m2 kitchen. Lovely stuff, flat as a pancake. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1379711707.968642.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1379711707.968642.jpg
     
  20. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Looks good ! I'm only using it on 6m2
    Don't think I'd like to try it on out big think your near the max at 25m2 ? Winter maybe more ?
     

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