moisture/humidity test

Discussion in 'Wood' started by Rich, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. Rich

    Rich Active Member

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    Hi guys just a question id like to pose particularly to Matt

    If were to take humidity readings in an area where a water based smoothing compound has just been laid (within 3 hours) with a dpm below what results would you expect?
    Area of 80 sq m
    dpm was uzin turbo pe 414 x 2 coats
    followed by Uzin 160 20 no units new done in over two visits on 2 consecutive days due to constraints on areas available so only 12 bags on the deck on the day of test

    Yea I know it seems obvious but there is method in my questioning

    Rich
     
  2. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Can you put a hygrometer on wet latex? :)
     
  3. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I'd expect your box would fill with water & brake like Merits did
     
  4. Rich

    Rich Active Member

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    I had complained about the quality of an engineered board supplied by a large UK based supplier
    They in turn employed an industry expert to survey the job
    He who shall not be named though is very well known (not sid or matt ) then came and made me look a proper **** in front of the client by telling her the humidity levels in the building were to high and I shouldn't be laying the floor
    This within 3 hours of me laying 14 units of water based latex over two coats of DPM
    Just goes to show how integrity can be brought as the industry expert wouldn't pass comment on the quality of the wood just on that of site conditions
    Its cost me in excess of £500 in lost earnings due to postponing the job and getting more readings taken which after were completely normal
    Somewhat ****ed off tbh
     
  5. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    3 hours isn't long enough drying time to lay on any screed really like
    This guy is being paid by the manufacturer so it no wonder whos side he'd be on
     
  6. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Just re read that

    Was the floor fitted ?
     
  7. Wes

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    "If were to take humidity readings in an area where a water based smoothing compound has just been laid (within 3 hours) with a dpm below what results would you expect?"

    I'd expect both the compound and the room RH to be sky high.

    I personally wouldn't be going near the floor with engineered wood for at least three to four days depending on the conditions.

    I'd also have the engineered flooring kept well away from that area.

    To clarify, I assume you weren't laying the engineered flooring three hours after you put the slc in?

    What were the issues with the flooring out of interest..
     
  8. pf flooring

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    super 30.....
     
  9. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Except fast track screeds:D
     
  10. mjfl

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    can you tell us what the rh was before any works had been carried out?
     
  11. merit

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    Sounds a bit ****. What happened to the wood floor to have it inspected? I'm guessing it was already down and the latexing was in the same room as the wood floor when he measured the air?
    Wasn't Ted Todd by any chance? :)
     
  12. Rich

    Rich Active Member

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    Rh prior and currently is 40% at a temp of 19,5 degrees
    taken from an mms2
     
  13. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    Sorry I meant.
    What was the subfloor rh
     
  14. Rich

    Rich Active Member

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    Subfloor is as dry as a bone even an mms on search mode can't regester more than 156
    i dpmed the floor to be safe
    the timber is an 18 mm engineered board bowed to **** look like a hump back bridge when laid on the floor the floor is flat I might add

    fitting advice from he who shall not named is to use a full pack of planks to lay on each board in order for the adhesive to cure and transfer
    Never heard such a crock of **** the boards at their worst have a 50mm gap off the floor at their centre
    looking forward to fitting this product lol
    he has taken our new readings and replied saying its to dry to fit !
    Another week of lost wages then ......
     
  15. brenchy

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    Surely a 50mm gap from the centre of the plank off the subfloor is excessive I thought the 25 mm was the max. is it a multiply understructure ?
     
  16. hobbit

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    Where do you get the extra packs of planks to lay on top when you get near the end ?
    Almost sounds like they were stored leaning up against a wall on their ends.
     
  17. Rich

    Rich Active Member

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    yes its all ****** tbh
    the planks have been on site acclimatising since the 2nd week of December stacked on a flat floor
    I was originally asked to floats the boards but when I went to site and saw them I refused to even take my tools off the van
    I suggested as its quite a property the boards are to laid in (around 6.5 mill) that we back the whole batch and then when new arrive fully bond or liquid batons
    The timber co involved refused to take them back without a 50% restocking charge !!!!! and then involved my newest pain in the arse whose been blighting my every move since lol
     
  18. Rich

    Rich Active Member

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    not ted todd
     
  19. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Stick to your guns mate, it's not your problem if the boards are all bowed
     
  20. pf flooring

    pf flooring Well-Known Member

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    Send them back, and tell them you will take them to court if they charge you a restocking charge on faulty goods, or even better get in writing that you will get an independent inspector (sid bourne) to come out and give you his opinion on the materials, if he finds in their favour you will cover his costs and use it but if he finds in your favour they will cover his costs and send out to you a new batch next day with no restock charge of the old (which sounds ready for the chipper anyway).

    Id also in front of the customer be asking about his credentials as lets be honest anyone who suggests putting a full pack on a board to weight it in obviously is lacking in knowledge, id bet good money he wont put that in writing for you.
    If you just go ahead and fit it though it will be you footing the bill if it goes wrong and that snake will for sure say he advised against fitting it.
     

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