Problems with karndean

Discussion in 'Vinyl / Impervious floor coverings' started by Carys, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. Carys

    Carys Member

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    No. Just hand held device to test moisture. If lack of grinding is the problem though, would expect it to lift everywhere but 2 rooms are ok so far.
     
  2. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Hand held scanner tells you basically nothing
    Don't count your chickens
    Also we ain't seen the job so a bit of speculation is involved
     
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2015
  3. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Did he do a carbide bomb test!!! The poor bastard!!
     
  4. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Just thought I'd check :lol:
     
  5. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    It would probably be a good business going round testing these anhydrite screeds for firms.
     
  6. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    rh test is the latest standards of testing. As for some rooms being o.k, it will fail at weakest points first. some rooms might be perfect and might be perfect for next few months. They might be perfect for the rest of the floors life.

    As you have been speaking to fball, request a site visit.
     
  7. dazza

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    I came across this screed last year and all my moisture meters where off the scale. The client done a carbide test and it came up dry which wasn't cheap. I had solid wood floor going down so a bit more problematic than karndean but they had ground the floor and touch wood no problems. I will say I fit a lot of karndean , a amtico and the floor prep has to be spot on with this screed and a scraper isn't good enough. He should have a machine.
     
  8. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Solid wood! Was it block? Your a brave man
     
  9. dazza

    dazza Well-Known Member

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    sorry meant engineered. I did tell the client if it goes wrong then I won't be held responsible.
     
  10. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Lol, I was getting worried for you there
     
  11. Distinctive Adam

    Distinctive Adam Well-Known Member

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    I think what we're all agreeing on is that is not the products fault....but installation is suspect. :confused:
     
  12. Carys

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    Just an update. The installer has decided that first thing to do is check moisture in floor so he has taken a reading using a box fixed onto subfloor and leaving it for 48 hrs. The reading is 93. Can this be right? Karndean laid in December and hand held meter used by installer then said that it was dry. Even if hand held device inaccurate it would have dried by now would it not?
     
  13. coolevilangel

    coolevilangel Well-Known Member

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    If the digital reading is saying 93, that means 93RH
    Which is supremely damp!
    Very suspect, that hand held in dec read dry and now 4+months later its reading as damp as could be?....
     
  14. coolevilangel

    coolevilangel Well-Known Member

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    just re-read beginning of thread
    When the box was glued to the subfloor (ideally it should be down for 72hrs, not 48)
    Was the u/f heating turned off?
    If not, even if low, it will give readings that are way off
     
  15. Carys

    Carys Member

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    Underfloor off and looks totally dry and no damp smell or anything.
     
  16. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    I've used a hand held meter on these subfloors that has shown dry and when I put a hygrometer box on the floor it was still very damp. Not sure it could dry out if it's covered with Karndean
     
  17. Carys

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    Are these hygrometers pretty accurate? Would you expect to get reading of 93 when visually it looks perfectly dry?
     
  18. DM Flooring

    DM Flooring Well-Known Member

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    Hygrometers are very accurate. I use them all the time to test suspect floors. As Coolevilangel said it needs a minimum of 72 hours for first reading the read again after another 24 hours.
     
  19. Carys

    Carys Member

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    Ok will check again tonigt when 72 hrs are up.
     
  20. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    It's possible
     

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