Sisal carpet buckling

Discussion in 'Carpet / Textile' started by Laura, Aug 25, 2018.

  1. Laura

    Laura New Member

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    Hi all

    Just after some general advice!

    We had a sisal carpet fitted on Wednesday of last week (professional fitter).

    All seemed fine until we arrived home yesterday to find that the carpet had buckled where the sun had been shining on it through the hallway door.

    It’s gone down again this morning, although still seems slightly loose!

    Presumably this isn’t normal?! I’ve read that this type of carpet needs to be glued to the underlay? Husband doesn’t think this was done as he was here for part of the fitting and thinks fitter just attached to gripper rods/sprayed around the edges.

    I intend to go back to the shop/fitters on Tuesday but would appreciate any guidance in the meantime as I’m certainly no expert!

    Photos of yesterday and this morning attached to show the comparison.
     

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  2. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    It's should be on a double stick system Undeylay tackified to the sub floor preferably ply lined first to prevent floorboards showing through and to give a smooth clean surface to glue on
    Then fully stuck to the underlay
    Also needs to be acclimatised for 24 hours before installation

    Certainly shouldn't be bubbling up like that
     
  3. stan1191

    stan1191 Well-Known Member

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    just the tide from the full moon o_O
     
  4. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Underlay should be stuck on hi tack or f3 not tackifier....thats for carpet tiles. Sisal moves too much to be sprayed around the edges!


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  5. vman

    vman Well-Known Member

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    Yep, 100% not fully stuck, don’t fancy the uplift if ulay been f3:mad:
     
  6. Samson

    Samson Well-Known Member

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    Hi Merit,

    I've double stuck natural flooring with tackifier (F40) since seagrass was introduced around 1990 and never had problems.

    What do you mean by 'hi tack?'

    Not being funny. Just interested if there is a product that I have missed.
     
  7. Samson

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    Looks like the sisal has been conventionally fitted (not double stuck) allowing expansion.

    Could be worse. It could have shrunk. It can be fixed.
     
  8. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    F40 is hi tack, f41 is tackifier


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  9. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    I just find tacki doesn’t grab the underlay so normally use a carpet adhesive. Wouldn’t use a 3mm notched trowel for it tho


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  10. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    F40 is still a tackifier
     
  11. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    A strong version


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  12. fixit Abu Dhabi

    fixit Abu Dhabi New Member

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    Hi there!

    Thanks for sharing your concern. Based on your description and photos, it appears that the sisal carpet has indeed buckled due to heat expansion, which is not uncommon, especially if the carpet is not properly secured.

    Your research is correct that sisal carpets typically require adhesive to be applied to the underlay to prevent movement and buckling. It's possible that the fitter may have missed this step or didn't use enough adhesive.

    Before speaking with the shop/fitters on Tuesday, you may want to:
    • Check the fitting instructions or manufacturer's guidelines for sisal carpets
    • Verify if the fitter followed the recommended installation procedure
    • Ask the fitters to inspect the installation and provide a solution to secure the carpet properly
    Keep us updated on how it goes, and feel free to ask further questions if needed!
     

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