Either I'm going insane or my 2 year old LVT/concrete floor is rising all around my flat - help!

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  1. Jh197

    Jh197 Member

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    Hi all.. Looks like he's a no show today and this was the third reschedule. Can anyone recommend someone in London that could come and do an assessment of the issue?

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  2. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    3rd time?
    He aint coming back is he...
     
  3. Jh197

    Jh197 Member

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    Yeah I figured which is why I need to move on to getting other experts in! :(
     
  4. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    Contact Floorskills and they can sort a inspector out for you
     
  5. Jh197

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    Thanks. I contacted them but the person handling inspections is out of the country for the next few weeks. If anyone knows someone in the London area that could come and at least identify what the issue is just for sanity sake..would appreciate it!

    One thing I was thinking is whether it could be caused due to tightness of the flooring? There doesn't seem to be any gap between the flooring and the wall as it goes right up against it.

    Could that cause swelling as there's no room for expansion? And if so how would I differentiate between that and moisture beiing the cause?

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  6. Floorever

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  7. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    Stick down Lvt doesn't need an expansion gaps therefore its always fitted right to the edges.
     
  8. Jh197

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    Hi all, just an update. Got someone coming to inspect t properly soon but in meantime I lifted a small area where I noticed dipping and revealed the following:

    http://imgur.com/a/sJfjAG6

    Weird that it looks like a layer is missing yet there isn't any of it peeling off on the back of the plank?

    Thoughts?
     
  9. Jh197

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    http://imgur.com/a/OPPell5

    Some additional photos I took.. Can see the large crack and when I put pressure on it, feels almost like it will blow.
     
  10. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Oh that’s well blown. What did he screed over? Parquet?


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  11. Jh197

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    It was a concrete floor. Put DPM then latex then flooring I believe.
     
  12. Jh197

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    Just went and found these from when it was done.

    http://imgur.com/a/nbwGlW6

    This was the subfloor prep after day 1.

    They finished laying the floors 2 days later.

    Is that enough time between floor prep and laying? Would the floor dry in time?

    Thanks
     
  13. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    Long handled scraper and flip the lot up and start again.

    Did you see him dpm it?
    Do you know what actual products he used??
     
  14. Jh197

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    Didn't see him DPM as I couldn't visit site again until that evening (wasn't living there yet)

    I don't know what products he used and he hasn't responded to me anymore.

    Also looking through my messages and saw he asked if we could turn on the heating (pipes run under concrete) to dry the screed quicker. I didn't do that but in wondering.. If he did.. Is that normal?
     
  15. merit

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    If it was done in the winter and no heating was on it could be trapped moisture in the levelling compound. Maybe it hadn’t dried out before he fitted over it. Or he’s used the wrong dpm or no dpm. Or used the wrong levelling compound. Too many possibilities


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  16. Jh197

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    Good points. I'm hoping the inspection will uncover that.

    It was done in the winter. My question becomes.. Are any of the reasons you listed NOT due to installation error?

    Shouldn't the flooring be tested multiple times for moisture?

    Finally, is there a way to confirm that the DPM was put down once we dig it up?

    I have texts confirming that a DPM would be put down before the latex but I worry about a lack of evidence if I progress the issue as a civil matter.
     
  17. Rugmunching

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    When a section is taken up then you should be able to see of a dpm was used but maybe there wasn't one used hence why he knows not to answer the phone to you.
     
  18. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Also I’ve seen a few token dpms put on. If it was cold it’s probably trapped moisture. Stuck between the dpm and the vinyl floor. Smoothing compounds, adhesives and floorcoverings are meant to be installed around between 18 and 27 degree


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  19. Jh197

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    So you reckon it's likely an installation fault?

    I'm looking at the time line of the job.

    Does the DPM need time to dry before the latex is added?

    Seems like entire 750sqft flat was DPMd and latexed in a single day.
     
  20. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    Depending what dpm was used whether it was a 2 coat roll on system or an epoxy with an accelerator then with either of them its possible to dpm and screed in a single day yes.
     

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