Karndean INSTASHIELD anyone hear?

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  1. JayXc

    JayXc Member

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    Hi Guys, so basically my floor been laid using this Self adhesive lvt underlay. After confronting contractor company I've been told that Kardeen now recommending using this instead of ply straight on chipboard and this is also replacing glue as is sticky.

    Later guys who supposedly works for Kareen gave me a call to confirm that.

    Question is if anyone hear anything about it?
    Also when I paid for glue down am I being a ripped off on this?

    Appreciate your help
    Thanks
     
  2. stan1191

    stan1191 Well-Known Member

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    I dont fit lvt but,

    Ive seen it being used and they dont ply, as for the ripped off bit, alot of us will price jobs for a certain margin of profit so regardless of what they wrote on the quote the price would have probably been the same anyway
     
  3. JayXc

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    Also been told that this is new product of Karndean which will be roll out soon. This might be true as INSTASHIELD
    just been registered as trade mark and google showing it
     
  4. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    We always ply it. Not a fan myself of these underlays. I’d use one in a bathroom maybe but nothing bigger.
     
  5. JayXc

    JayXc Member

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    what will be pros and cons of this?

    can't see any for the costumer really and I have areas of deflection already as glue seems not be as strong as wet lay
     
  6. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    Do you have any direct sunlight going on the floor ?
     
  7. JayXc

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    I mean normal amount of sunlight but where is lifting/ deflection is anywhere near windows.
    Looks like around room perimeter/door adhesion is poor.

    What will be remedy for this normally? I understand add glue if it's glue down not sure what is procedure on this type
     
  8. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Any sunlight and your in trouble. Can’t see it being suitable. You should call Karndean direct and ask them about the warranty on it


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  9. Paul webb

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    I've used the flexpro, which is similar, quite a few times, when it's suitable to do so and never had any problems with it, as soon as you put pressure on it, it sticks like shit to a blanket, that type of underlay isn't cheap, so price probably the same as ply and adhesive, i haven't tried the instashield, but if it isn't sticking, then it could be down to it getting dirty or dusty during installation, or it could be a manufacturer issue
     
  10. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Traditional prep only for me unless there some drastic reason why I can't which is very rare

    Not a fan of theses dodgy underlay systems Not fit for purpose imo
     
  11. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree with you spacey


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  12. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Makes a change :p
     
  13. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Lol


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  14. JayXc

    JayXc Member

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    Little update,
    As I expected after 2 months I do have lvt lifting issues every room where this installation method was used (apart from en-suite)

    Too tight fit was blamed for that and trimming is way of fixing that.
    It come apparent for me that 0 subfloor preparation was done on 1st floor. Subfloor is chipboard and only instashield underlay act as subfloor preparation and to smooth surface.

    Does this sounds correctly?
     
  15. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Sounds exactly as we thought. A failure


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  16. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    It would probably work well if you were laying over a sheet of glass in a climate controlled room with no window furniture or skirting boards


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