Hi guys, from memory i think its ok to do this, I've been involved in a bit of a spat an another forum which i've been a member of for a few years . Ok to post a link ? Have a look and see what you think ! :lol: http://flooring-forum.co.uk/index.php?/ ... 1f3f61dd8d hope so !! apologies if it isn't cheers Ray
whats up with people Ray, it seems you asked a viable question and you,ve been shat on mate, from what pictures you have previously posted you certainly know what you are doing ,and you dont need a few KNOBS slagging you off, i hope that answers your question mate
As stated in one of the posts,its a funny trade this floorlaying lark! you get some people who seem to think they know everything. For me and alot of others on here know exactly what i'm doing but its nice to hear other fitters ways and thoughts and if you pick something new up along the way thats great! Matt is a prime example,he is very knowledgeable when it comes to various floor laying technics but i have never seen him jump on someone or criticize them for asking simple questions. I dont care who you are or what you think you know about the trade,we are always learning. My little rant over :lol: Hippy fitter Ps,i never stir my f44 :roll:
LOL at that thread. Kind of defeats the point of a forum if you cant ask questions. Simple or not. I have alot of people PM me questions rather than post them on here because they have been on forums before and have been slatted for asking a "simple" question. There is no such thing as a "simple" question if you dont know the answer. If you dont know then you should be able to ask the question and get a normal answer. At least you are trying to find the answer rather than not bothering at all.
Thanks for taking a look guys, it seems to be sorted now. I explained right at the start that i dont often do commercial flooring, I think my mate Banjo reckons I shouldn't do it atall !! Truth of the matter is I can do this type of work perfectly well, it just isn't second nature to me. Out of interest, someone suggested that the air temp can affect how you weld. I have welded before and since with no problems but that one night i had a few minor issues (which I overcame) it was very cold in the building where the floor had been laid. Could that have been a reason ? Thanks again Ray
there are loads of reasons why a weld wont take. Sometime user error and sometimes other reasons. For instance- Subfloor temp product temp weld rod melt point weld gun temp nozzel type room temperature Crap product? crap weld rod ? different melt point to each other? etc etc. Always use a scrap to practice on. HOWEVER! dont use some srap that has been left on a counter top! It will be at room temp and not subfloor temp like the product your trying to weld to. When doing practice welds, make sure you leave your scrap bit on the subfloor so it is at the same temp as the rest of the floor your trying to weld. Also different nozzels can make a difference. 99% of fitters use a 'speed nozzel'. You should not use these. They should be banned! How many times do you walk into a hospital etc and the welds are dirty? This is normally because of the use of a speed nozzel. speed nozzels cause minor cracks (not visible to the eye) that will collect dirt. simple test for you. Get yourself a speed nozzle and a standard welding nozzel and do a weld with each. Next get some ash form a fire place / ash tray etc and rub it over the weld. Next run the "test welds" under a tap to wash off the ash. The weld using the speed nozzle will not clean! it will be left dirty. The other weld 'normal weld nozzel' will wash clean!
The problem I had Matt was when starting the weld off, just getting that first bit to take. it was a minor problem which I overcame with a bit of persistence till i got it right. I really appreciate your advice on this though I will certainly bear it in mind. does the normal nozzle you suggest glaze the weld, is that the difference ?
There will be no damage to the weld and is hard to burn the product. However the down side is that it is slower to use. when starting off welds or finishing them use can always put some masking tape down and start melting the weld rod onto the masking tape. Or you can use a trowel blade etc to protect the product and start your weld on this.
Matt this is the first time I have heard this, most fitters request speed nozzels, are hopitals mangement aware that flooring done this way would could harbour germs, because if ash can get in so can things that are far worst. I am going to ask our welding kit suppliers if they are aware of this problem and see if we can get them to alter things.
They must know. It was tarket who should me this problem years ago so im sure other product manufactories realise this also.
