What is every1 using for engineered wood underlay. I normally using timbermate exel but it weighs a ton and gives you electric shocks if you move around too fast on it :smile:
Timberate is also available in 10 sq m rolls (still heavy, but easier to handle than the 15 sq m rolls) We use Excell on concrete if the client needs extra sound-insulation, Timbermate Duractex on existing floorboards etc. Mostly though we use Barrier and Barrier Plus
Same here, Excell and timbermate, they give a better feel to a floated floor, as its more solid you don't get the spring that you get with some of the foam type underlays.
Where do you guy's source your Timbermate Duratex from? I can find the 15m2 stuff but I need 10m2 stuff otherwise I'll be well short of or well over what I need.. I'm finding it hard to source online.. I'm just a punter btw, slightly north west of london. Cheers!
you will find that we buy in large rolls as the half roll left over will be used on the next job. Hence when we supply a floor we can supply by the meter. I dont think we deal with any supplies that do half rolls etc. You can try Floors2go i guess if any stores are still open near you?
Cheers for the answer, I just saw that the other chap there mentioned 10m2 rolls so thought I could get hold of some somewhere.. I had a quick look through the floors2go page and they don't appear to do timbermate. I've come accross the timermate on one website but its only in 15m2 rolls. cheers again.
Only the Excell is available in 10 sq m rolls, not the Duratex (and don't go using the excel if what you need is the duratex!)
ahh I see.. well its going onto wooden floorboards with no underfloor heating, so its duratex I need.. Or some other product of decent quality. I spent enough on the flooring, so I'm not going to go getting some pap from homebase that looks as useful as covering the floor in 40 bin bag's!
Has anyone used this stuff Timbertech Original Xtra 3mm http://www.vanillawoodfloors.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=708 ? I can get that a bit cheaper from where I'm intending on getting my bamboo flooring(for upstairs).. I've also seen another underlay there, the X-Pro Tack, which is adhesive underlay... Does the adhesive stuff work well, or should I stick to buying the specialised glue at 70 pounds a tub?
don't use self adhesive underlay theyr'e diy rubbish at best if it's t&g always full stick or nail to subfloor but do damp and rh readings first. if floating stick with heavy rubber underlays or boardwalk which is a dense pu foam
most copy-cat self-adhesive underlayment is rubbish from DIY sheds jumping on the band wagon. The Original Elastilon is not rubbish at all (but comes with a rightfully higher price) see diy story here: http://faq.woodyoulike.co.uk/2011/06/al ... ornia.html
it's fine for diy'ers but isn't good enough for a professional job in my experience, used it once never again, for me I have to glue direct to sub-floor not had a problem when done correctly.
Like yourself i would always chose to fix teh flooring to the subfloor where possible. But if need be i will float using Elastilon, personally i think the stuff is fine. Not a preferred choice as stated above. What your issue with it tho ?
That's right. But in circumstances where you have to fully bond the floor but can't due to the type or state of underfloor, Elastilon is the solution. And as for only for diy-ers and not professional enough, loads of commercial projects in Europe and beyond are installed using Elastilon: http://www.elastilon.com/uk/index.php?o ... &Itemid=11
Of course you sort the underfloor first, but if that means adding too much height and expensive costs for the client, Elastilon is a very good alternative. Case in point: old marley tiles which can't be removed due to asbestos (client had this tested) and a floor to bond down.
in that case would recommend enginnered board such as kahrs/ haro using heavy rubber underlay or even tuplex.
We can recommend until we're blue in the face, no use when the diy-er already bought "cheap offer" of solid wood flooring with too many short lengths!
