Lino rippling

Discussion in 'General Flooring Chat' started by bournemouth, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. bournemouth

    bournemouth Super Moderator

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    Just started a job today for a company who's own fitters have done 90% of Lino but every room has bubbles / rippled down every wall not bubbles comin back from skirting as cut in tight but going along the wall I'll try and get some photos it was latexed with mapie trade plan with a prime lino left to aclimatise for 24 hours Aryan in fball Lino glue and rolled long and short ways bit worried as I will have to come back and put right anything I have to done anyone ever come across this or know why it happens
     
  2. Matt

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    needs some pictures mate
     
  3. Jay

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    Yeah need some pics, although I would never do Lino using balls F54, only Forbo's own adhesive its like chewing gum and never loses its grab one of the best Lino adhesives for sure.
     
  4. bournemouth

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    Will put some pics on as soon as I work out how to get them from iPhone to comp, one of the lads cut a 2 metre by 2 metre piece out and replaced it but when measured the old piece it was 2.01m wide 2 metres back from wall but end at wall was 2.08 m wide :?: will have to get the wife to get my pics on here for me for you to see
     
  5. Matt

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    any reason why you have locked your own topic mate so others cant post?

    Let me know if this is by accident so i can unlock for you
     
  6. Jay

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    That sounds like they haven't cut the salvage edge off, all Lino is wider than 2m as it has a salvage edge thats supposed to be cut off. I'm not saying they've done it wrong but that edge if not cut off will have a tendancy to curl up.
     
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    Let's see if I've worked this out how to upload from iPhone
     
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  9. tarkett85

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    god that's bad did anyone do an Rh test it looks like moisture could be the problem
     
  10. bournemouth

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    It was 1 k turbo but when the asked the bloke who Dpm and latex he said I Dpm it as normal all over the floor upto a couple of inchs from the skirting, please tell me that's not right way I always brush it round the edge as close to skirt or wall as poss most of the time on the skirt :lol: they always laught at me for taking so long but is it not the right way
     
  11. tarkett85

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    you're right not him, but really should remove skirt and go direct to wall to get a continuous coverage. Did he say what the Rh was if over 92% 1k turbo not suitable and should use epoxy, continental say 5% moisture figure that's 92%. Did they check Rh after 1k turbo was installed might not have dropped below 75% Rh
     
  12. tarkett85

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    your main problem is the use of FBalls adhesive, if there is a product failure no one will rectify it because of 2 different manufacturers products being used,t he installer will be liable for it
     
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    I was thinking damp, was the adhesive out of date? as that could be the problem as years ago I got to a job and the adhesive had a weird smell and was hard to spread then I noticed it 3 years past the stamped date on the drum so I went and got another one.
    What was the subfloor?
     
  14. Matt

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    DPM has to go to the edge. It should really go up behind the skirts to meet the DPC.

    Defo looks like moister. Has the screed blown?
     
  15. tarkett85

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    that's what i said :lol:
     
  16. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    ye, never noticed the 2nd page of posts lol,

    just to add to your post, 1k turbo can be used over 92% but needs two coats.
     
  17. tarkett85

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    what's the point in ESM then
     
  18. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Some people want epoxy, some people dont like change. Also 1k turbo is not sutible over a rough surface.


    Its like why have different types of smoothing compounds when in reality we only need the one.

    Personal choice.
     
  19. tarkett85

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    yeah suppose, but you wouldn't use any over a rough surface fix subfloor, dpm, prime then screed or prime, latexplan then dpm
     
  20. Matt

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    Thats what we would do. As for others .......


    Also to add, im not keen on using products on subfloors over 92%. If a subfloor has that high a moister content the subfloor must only be a few weeks old. I would prefer to leave it to dry a little more to finish of the shrinking process etc.

    Still not always possible hence we have the 2 coat systems. Some people are just to impatient ;)
     

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