bit of advice, tips etc... gotta 80m2 install of solid oak 18mm x 125mm, client wants to use tongue tite screws, aint used these before & looking for some tips & advice... i'm guessing slower install than using the old porta-nailer, but how much slower..? guessing i'll need to pilot hole the boards, was thinking maybe to just do the ends of each board with pilot & drive other screws without wasting more time...? all pro's & con's, tips 'n advice appreciated...
Never used them myself, what are they like? don't like using screws as your always concerned about splitting without doing a pilot. And then you sometime have a problem when you put the next board in and you haven't driven in the last screw deep enough, so out it comes and you have to do it again, I would say all the manufactures recommend portanailing so why change the wheel and ask him if the manufactory will still give a warranty if laid this way? Or find out if its the recommended way before you ask the question ? It's never good to make yourself look too much of a fool
My uncle used them on his floor. Thought they were easy enough but don't pull boards in as tight as nailer. He pilotted every one, 2 cordless drills, one drilling, other screwing. I'd like to use them myself
They are quite handy to have i use them it tight spaces where i cant get my nailer in, but to do a whole install with them would take a lot longer than if you was to use a porta nailer, i cant see what you would gain by using them?
i'd gain a $heite load of wasted time for sure mate... client has been advised by a 'friend' to use them, guess i'll have to get the glock out & persuade him otherwise...
I know a few builders that swear by them and the floors I've seen them put down are solid but that's no different to when u use a power nailer??? Like you say its gonna take a lot longer so have to charge more
Did a job a couple of weeks ago for a customer who had solid oak in the living room. I glued down that job but she wanted the same wood in two bedrooms. When customers want this I always point out any problems they may have if the floor needs to be lifted ( access to pipes or electrics etc.) but she was adamant about the solid so I suggested using tongue tite. It does take longer and I charged for it. It does say no pilot holes are required but the tongue can split sometimes so I usually pilot. I have never had a problem with them not pulling the boards together.
They work a treat! DIY? I've done a full install using them when I forgot my nailer, didn't have a problem, it did take longer tho and I had to pilot hole the planks but when it were finished you couldn't tell if it were nailed or screwed. I personally do like them but I do prefer my pneumatic bostitch
Time means money mate as a pro we need to do the job in as short a time as practical so tongue tights best for DIY where you can take days to do a job that'd take us a day by nailing.
I went belt and braces on my own floor. New build with chipboard flooring so went over it with 6mm ply then used Sika glue (the stuff that looks and smells like chocolate) then used tongue tites. I only needed to pilot the end screws and I found they pulled the floor in 100% tight. The floor is down now 6-7 years and other than the wear and tear my kids give it the floor looks spot on. You're right about the extra time, it's not the quickest way to lay a floor and you'll probably want to point that out to the customer so that they can then decide if they're willing to pay for the extra time.
Personally prefer to glue and clamp every time especially when most planks I'm doing are 150mm wide +
Have a job to do with them, don't have a nailer and wont be buying one as I only do the odd solid, look very easy to use on you tube no splitting either apparently. two of you on it with two drills should be as quick , every box come with a bit for drill.
