roller marks

Discussion in 'Subfloor Preparation' started by sam sanders, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. sam sanders

    sam sanders Well-Known Member

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    hi, I screeded I kitchen this morning not a big one only 15m2 but when I finished I could see marks where I had stopped my roller in the screed, I've had it before and I know its easily sorted with some feather finish, but I was wondering if I'm getting them because I'm doing something wrong with my roller?
     
  2. pf flooring

    pf flooring Well-Known Member

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    twisting it slightly as you change direction.
     
  3. bournemouth

    bournemouth Super Moderator

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    Yes you are getting them because your stopping the roller in the screed use a 2 metre extendable handle along with your arm and reach you should have a 3 metre rolling length and roll from wall to wall dont stop in the middle if the rooms larger than 3x3m then get a pair of spikey shoes so you van walk in the screed to roll frim wall to wall. You may also be getting stop marks from the screed being to thin or turning slightly
     
  4. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Your rolling it to late you need to do it quicker !
     
  5. sam sanders

    sam sanders Well-Known Member

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    thanks for the advice, think ill get my self some spikey shoes
     
  6. Pigsarse

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    Any of the above Or also possibly if its got a build up of screed on spikes that also causes stop marks. Gotta keep ya spikes clean bud
     
  7. SandyFloor

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    I've been doing a lot of screeds on new builds with large windows the last couple of years and they show up the marks very easily so I've learned a lot to get rid of them. This is just the way I do them.

    1. Prime well to slow the subfloor drawing the moisture.
    2. The natural instinct is to add the max amount of water ( if it's a water mix screed) but the self smoothing works much better with less than the maximum water as long as you prime well. A water screed reacts with water so less water means a slower reaction and a slightly longer working time. It will also create much less laitence. For example Stopgap 300 needs 5.5 to 5.75 ltrs per bag.....go nearer to 5.5 ltrs
    3. Protect and clean your roller. If the spikes jam it drags. Make sure the spikes aren't crossed from getting bashed in the van.
    4. Once you start, get it down as quickly as you reasonably can. With large rooms spread the screed across the whole room with each mix so you're always spiking freshly poured areas and not leaving one area to dry more.
     
  8. Astramk5

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    Really? I never knew that. I tend to go for the max most of the time.
     
  9. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Less is more !
     
  10. DM Flooring

    DM Flooring Well-Known Member

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    Or more or less:)
     
  11. Wes

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    Great tips there mate :)

    I bought a brand spanking pin roller yesterday...Firing down some NA and started rolling...The god damn spike rollers at each end kept on jamming up against the housing and dragging!!! Was fuming!!! Didn't want to start faffing about with it so had to motor on. Now left with a load of drag lines to sort out :mad:
     
  12. g4l

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    Where did you get your spike? I used to get the cheap fball rip off copy and used to take a spike spool off each end to stop it dragging.

    Topps tiles do a big 750mm for £30 that's good as long as you get it spotless after each job.
     
  13. G.W Flooring

    G.W Flooring Well-Known Member

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    Last one I bought I had to take one off for it to roll. Pain in the .....
     
  14. merit

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    Had the same problem with the Fball spikey which takes the **** considering how expensive they are! Need to take a few of the spikes off via Ive taken off 2 and the are still jamming
     
  15. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    Clean it ya lazy git
     
  16. Trimmer

    Trimmer Well-Known Member

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    My f ball one was sticky as well. Must have been when I tried rolling PS after a few beers
     
  17. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Lol, you should see it now, its been treated badly ever since the spikes stopped rolling.
    Bloody thing was jammed from the first job which was a rapid set screed I done at night, you can imagine how that looked the next day. Ruuuf
     
  18. Wes

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    I got it from Pennine flooring...I didn't have time to mess, but my plan is to cut the spikes off the end rollers because I don't really want the other rollers flapping about...So basically the end rollers will be washers when I'm done :roll:

    I've been using a Topps one for a good while and it's been great...I just got sick of it dropping in my slc when it popped of my broom (I know I should have sorted a permanent stick and screw for it) :D Anyway, wanted a decent all it one..It is decent but really didn't expect that to happen...
     
  19. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    Top tip. Take it all apart. Bowl of boiling water an drop them in. Let it cool till u can rub the old screed off with your hands. Change an damaged for new ones an back together.
    Did it last month an its like new.
     
  20. sidney

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    I tend to wait until its dried on, then roll it along my garden path a few times, old screed soon falls off.
     

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