Reclaimed Block Laying Spec

Discussion in 'Wood' started by gazhugs, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. gazhugs

    gazhugs Well-Known Member

    238
    122
    43
    Evening All

    Got a job next week where we have to lay 26m2 of reclaimed [cleaned/scraped by us] pitch pine parquet blocks.

    Now the subfloor is concrete and has marley tiles in-situ which we have to take up, the marley tiles are stuck down with what i think is a bitumen type of adhesive [i may be wrong not 100% sure at present] i'll of course do plenty of checks when we get the old marley tiles up and out of the room.

    Now i plan to put 2 x coats of lecol PU280 and kiln dried sand down, then lay the parquet with lecol 5500...the subfloor seemed super flat when i did the site survey so hopefully won't need self levelling, now has anyone got any other ideas or pro's and con's about what i propose to do, i've used this method a few times with no issues at all...

    All comments/opinions welcome :santa
     
  2. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

    8,208
    1,676
    113
    Is that lecol adhesive flexable?
     
  3. gazhugs

    gazhugs Well-Known Member

    238
    122
    43
    Not really no, but none of the adhesives [solvent based ones] that will stick down reclaimed blocks have much flexibility, and PU adhesives won't stick reclaimed blocks down...btw the blocks will be well scraped and just have the oily residues on the back of the blocks, all the crud will be gone...
     
  4. DM Flooring

    DM Flooring Well-Known Member

    1,045
    395
    83
    The old marley tiles may have white asbestos in them. You need to check this.
     
  5. gazhugs

    gazhugs Well-Known Member

    238
    122
    43
    Hi Dave...how do you go about checking for that ?? apologies in advance for my ignorance...
     
  6. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

    8,208
    1,676
    113
    Does the house have existing Dpm? If not is that type of Dpm good enough to use? I'm not familiar to the lecol stuff. I use to use that 5500...its the grey stuff that dries rock hard isn't it?
     
  7. DM Flooring

    DM Flooring Well-Known Member

    1,045
    395
    83
    As a rule of thumb older properties (upto early 80's I think) tend to have the marley tiles which have the white asbestos. It needs to be sent off and tested and personally I don't and won't touch/uplift them as they need to be disposed of properly. Matt Bourne will probably have more info on it.
     
  8. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

    6,328
    1,402
    113
    Marley tiles up to 2001 i think.

    Here is some guidelines - http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a23.pdf
     
  9. gazhugs

    gazhugs Well-Known Member

    238
    122
    43
    Thanks Matt
     
  10. gazhugs

    gazhugs Well-Known Member

    238
    122
    43
    Pretty sure the house has existing dpm, the house is old-ish but has been well modernised in the last 10-15 yrs, i think i'm going to have to do another site visit on Saturday :(

    Lecol 5500 is the grey stuff that dries rock hard yes...
     
  11. TonyA

    TonyA Well-Known Member

    327
    118
    43
    Gaz'
    |Your spec is good,check with Duncan about PU 280 on Bitumen Emulsion or ATA.I think this is where your weak point is.Lecol 5500 is great on reclaimed blocks.
     
  12. Wes

    Wes Well-Known Member

    426
    195
    43
    Standard thoughts really Gaz...

    How old is the house in relation to an existing dpm under the slab? That PU280 has certain limitations after a quick read of the data sheet. You've probably gone through all this on that problem thread so apologies if we're going over old ground mate..

    That bitumen used to glue them tiles gives me the heebie geebies...It looks solid and sound but just give it a gentle flick with your utility knife and it's often pretty soft and plucks easily. I don't trust it and it gets removed.
     
  13. gazhugs

    gazhugs Well-Known Member

    238
    122
    43
    Thanks chaps...i've just emailed the client with my concerns and have asked for another site visit to check things out in more detail...
     
  14. gazhugs

    gazhugs Well-Known Member

    238
    122
    43
    Thanks Tony, i'll call him tomorrow to ask...
     
  15. gazhugs

    gazhugs Well-Known Member

    238
    122
    43
    More news chaps...

    The client has just emailed back and has informed me that the marley tiles [or marley tile look alikes] were laid 20yrs ago when the room [an extension was built] so it's pretty likely the subfloor will have a dpm under it...anyone got any ideas about the tiles ?? would tiles from 20yrs ago have had asbestos in them ??
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2013
  16. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

    6,259
    1,593
    113
    brittle/rigid or bendable ish??
     
  17. gazhugs

    gazhugs Well-Known Member

    238
    122
    43
    3 questions in one ;) don't know atm, will find out sat afternoon...when the client lifted part of the carpet up in the room for me to look at the floor when i did the site visit, i seem to vaguely remember the tiles being greenish in colour, but there were no loose tiles so i couldn't take one up to see.

    Out of the 3 options i'd have to say rigid...
     
  18. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

    6,328
    1,402
    113

    Anything fitted before 2001. If there brittle and black , brown, green or grey i would be worried.
     
  19. gazhugs

    gazhugs Well-Known Member

    238
    122
    43
    Hi Matt

    Ta very much indeed for the info...i'm going to have another look at the surface this coming Saturday so we'll see how that goes...
     
  20. flooringman

    flooringman Well-Known Member

    501
    149
    43
    Had a job a couple of months ago that had vinyl tiles that had to be removed before I screeded.

    I had the tiles tested and they were positive (although only minute quantities). I was told that now I'd had them tested they would have to be removed and disposed of by an authorised operator (expensive) - if I did it that would be illegal.

    I was then told that if the customer wanted to remove them himself then that would be no problem - even chucking them in an open skip.

    That's what he did.
     

Share This Page