from my view the magnification of this picture makes it look worse than it probably is in real life, the tile is sticking up because it too tight, and just needs a trim, the other one is a bit of grit or the staple, maybe he didn't have the tap hammer, send us a picture of the whole room if you can rather than a close up section, want to see the overall picture please , from the other two pictures you have sent the cutting in looks tight and doesn't looked hooked in with heat gun to me. i think he has gone around with the mastic to try and give you a better job, it doesn't look like he needed to do it from the last two pictures,
It looks heated to me, that's why it's lifted at the edges. Always a sign of a bad fitter. Yeah we've all heated a tile(from back only I hope) and Amtico also mentioned about heating the tile was ok. If it was a bathroom then that's really the only place for silicone, if needed but not how that has been done. Can I ask why you didn't come on here before getting in a shop to do the job? You can always get a guy from here to do work for you. Just a thought.
I was down at karndean earlier this year, doing the advanced course. if you mentioned a heatgun for simple cuts, you'd get laughed at. You don't require to use a heatgun anywhere if you know what your doing. simple as that. there are instances where the heatgun is used, but it's not on a simple wall cut lol
i would agree if they were all like it, but the other pictures all show it flat and cut in tight, it looks like he cut away the door jams. and fitted that tile without a heat gun, so it makes no sense to use it on the one next to it, the magnification is very near, which is making it look worse
Interesting about the silicon. We've spoken to them about it and they said it's no point. When I went on the course they said don't use. Yeah around the toilet we probably all do. I guess it comes down to what the guy who's teaching you thinks.
At amtico they said no silicone unless round a pan or pedestal and even then its down to choice (personally think its neater), in a domestic bathroom alot of people ask for silicone even after explaining to them its not needed, ie: white amtico tiles against white wall tiles I will put a small bead of white silicone around the edge as I think it leaves a better finish. In regards to rolling a floor, with hi temp its an absolute must, if using ps or sf then I dont usually bother as it will grab it straight away or should if using correct notch.
No excuses there I'm afraid that's poor poor fitting sorry but 1. Why heat in a cut no no no , it always curls, we all know that. 2. Why silicone against a wall were there is no skirting?? Don't understand it. 3. I know it's only two plank photo but its gappy too. I've read all the posts from previous and have to say the fitter deserves to be under scrutiny big time. This just tops it all off.
regarding silicon. There is nothing wrong with applying silicon providing it is done for a reason (not to cover gaps with poor fitting) but also regarded as good practice. However there is applying silicon neat and a FINE amount used and then there is gunking it on. The reason why its advised to be used - In wet area it stops any spilt water running down edges (same for kitchens etc where there might be a spill) On wooden subfloors and floating screed slabs the subfloor can shrink with different rh and temperatures. It hides any small gaps that can appear over winter period. Movement of these subfloors is normal for there construction. ALL new builds or any house that has had a vacuum test you HAVE TO reapply any sealants you may of removed or specified. If you dont then you will have voided any heat loss certificates the property may have. The reasons why not to use- To hide dodgy cuts !
So what happens if you void someone's heat warrenty? I've never heard of this. I assume it's not a legal requirement to put it back on. The majority I see are 10mm up the skirting. Looks awful
Funny that cause for years we had to silicone any council jobs, vinyl tiles or polysafe in all areas. Wonder if that was why.
I latexed a private new build, came back later to fit and someone had siliconed all the way around the kitchen and hall... It was everywhere.. and no way would the planks sit flat anywhere near the skirts so it all had to be cut off.. Are we saying I should then silicone after installation??
If you are removing silicon that has been applied to get gain the heat loss certificate then you should reapply it. Are we teaching it ? YES we show how to apply silicon and coloured acrylic seals as should be used with floating lvt, floating sublfoors etc. . We teach how to apply neat and different types of sealants depending on what reason your applying for. Do we teach it to get over bad cuts? NO , poor quality cuts are not acceptable and im sure we all agree on this. We do not teach applying silicons etc to cover poor workmanship.
Im not sure of legal requirements. What i do know is the goverement set a standard of what heat loss new build houses have to fall into to be signed of. This also goes for older houses that have been tested. It was explained to me that if you remove you are responsible for changing the performance of the house and heat loss that a official certificate has been produced for. Classed bit like a boiler has been signed off or the electrics have been signed of and someone decides to go and mess around with the boiler or electrics. It renders the certificate void. As above, the legal side of it i dont know if you get told 'naughty boy' or could face imprisonment like messing with a boiler. I would presume not as your not exactly endangering lives are you? But i will ask tomorrow. All this came around when i was challenging the stupid amount of silicon applied around skirts. As we are a finishing trade that came in after tests are carried out they didnt care. However it was suggested that the silicon should be applied to the underside of skirts while fitting but it was blown out as the silicon is applied 'after the house has shrunk' Load of ****** if you ask me.
Technically yes. or was it still sealed? Can of worms mate. Dont get me wrong, i have cut of loads when fitting carpet and not re-applied. Personally i dont think its possible to install carpets with silicon around the edges. But how do you reapply silicon after carpet is installed. And the biggest joke is new builds or any double glazed windows installed in any age property HAVE TO HAVE VENTS. So if we have vents in the windows then what has sealing the skirts going to do? Also if you have a gas fire roa gas cooker you have to have a wall vent or a floor vent. But on testing they block them off and the letter box. The whole thing is a joke.
Ive seen a full house shrink before, all the carpets were short by 15mm around the skirting, site foreman were adamant that we cut the carpets short we only got away with it when the estimator spotted that the silicone were stuck to the floor and not the skirting board, this happened in every room, ben baileys for you in too much of a rush to get that end of year bonus......
I've had the joys of cutting away silicone in a new build today..... I think they forgot to put a nozzle on the tube!!!! The builders (Barrets) offered to silicone up the vinyl areas when im done.... A polite no thanks was exchanged!
Yes, but the latex had covered any gaps between skirts and floor!!, yet they must of used 3 tubes..lol I did reseal.. but for what reason?? If things are going to move the silicone will be left either on skirts with a gap underneath or on the floor with gap above.. Look at it like an M.O.T for a car, it passes on the day.. but it's not to say you won't change the size of the numberplate or even the colour of your lights.... You get it passed on that day and after that who knows what happens.
