Hi All, Please could you advise, what underlay would be best for my carpet it is a stripe wilton tufted axminister. The carpet is for a small study 2.5 x 3m it has a wooden floor, I have been advised to use drouble gripper rods. I was considering using the plushwalk 12mm underlay would this be suitable?
Axfelt or brinfelt, crumb rubber felt combination underlay. Cloud 9 contract, or another high quality pu. Just remember your grippers are suited to 8-9mm underlay so anything thicker will need the gripper packed up Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hi, Thank you for your reply. when you say raise the grippers would that mean putting strips of 9mm under them? Do I double gripper?
Don’t try fitting it yourself you absolutely need to get in a professional, the installation on woven carpets is different to cheaper action back and your installer must do the prep work or you will be wasting your time and money. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hi, Don’t worry would not dream of fitting it myself. i have found a local fitter from the national institute of carpet and floorlayers. I just like to know for peace of mind it’s been done correctly.
4mm ply under the gripper will do it. Or use thicker gripper like geordie gripper Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Merit thank you for your reply. i have axfelt in my living room, I find it too firm although I understand it prolongs the life of carpet. I am looking for the soft feel. what would you do if you were fitting it? Go for the 12mm plushwalk and raise grippers, go for cloud 9 contract or a 10mm plushwalk?
I agree crumb rubber felts are too hard even if it is best for the carpet. If your underlay is too spongey it will make the carpet wear faster tho. I like cloud 9 cirrus as it’s best of both. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Cloud 9 super contract, carpenter powerstep will do the job just fine your other option is something like tredaire elite it’s a good underlay but does weigh a bit and has a slightly higher cost than PU foams, personally speaking I prefer rubber underlay over the PU but each to their own. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
And yes double bank gripper or use architectural gripper for a woven back. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thanks guys for all your help. Will leave the plushwalk as no one has even mentioned it. Is there a reason for this. cloud 9 contract I have in my other living room which is under a isense serenity carpet. Certainly felt nice when I walked on it before the carpet was laid. I think I will go for cirrus and see how it fares.
Hi the thickest I would go is 10mm and I wouldn't bother with double banking the gripper in a small room. As long as you get a good fixing In the floor an you can stretch and axe onto the length with ease and it will hold nicely same for the sides as not much stretch at all. I would double bank gripper on a bigger lounge that needs more stretch. If you want to use thicker underlay you could use hi pin gripper then no need to build it up, but I'm not a fan, it can stick through the carpet. Felt underlays are ok but hard and were only used in the days when joins were sewn together, the join would bed into the felt better. Good today for insolation, heat and sound.
All done thank you all for your help. Went for 10mm plushwalk underlay, architectural grippers. Picked a fitter from the NICF. lovely chap proper old school. Used a form of latex glue to seal all the edging. there were a lot of ripples in carpet, advised that these should go after a few days heating should help. 2 weeks later they were not gone. He stretched it to its max, did not want to use a power stretcher as it may have damaged the cabinets. Now here is something new, he said back in the old days when fitting similar quality carpets in pubs they used to be fitted in rows about 28 inches wide or something, a,b,a,b, and seamed together. Sometimes the alternate row would ripple and they would put boiling hot water to shrink the carpet. Applied the same technique and magically all the ripples went!
Mmmmm, glad they went but sounds like he creased it up a bit and couldn't stretch them out. Probably in the width, harder to get out. Nice that he used latex on the edges, that will hold it nicely. Looks good.
That is unusual, you can normally stretch a carpet like that into next week on the length. Well fingers crossed they won't com back. I wouldn't use the water trick all the time if I were you. Still looks nice and flat now.
