Black concrete

Discussion in 'General Flooring Chat' started by merit, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Had a few of these on a estate where I use to work, all the subfloors were a black, mega hard concrete. Any1 know what it is and if you can screed over them? I've always fitted carpet over them in the past.
     
  2. tarkett85

    tarkett85 Well-Known Member

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    Not asphalt/bitumen is it mate?
     
  3. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    No, it's black all the way through! Really weird. I remember them from this certain estate but got to screed over one next week and fit lvt over it
     
  4. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    carbon black pigment used in the mix to make it that colour
     
  5. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    So nothing to worry about then:confused:
     
  6. BLINCO94

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    Funny you say that actually; I was on a job the other week and it had exactly the same to what you are discribing. Couldn't get any pins in it, had to glue all the gripper down.
     
  7. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Yes mate, that's the stuff. Never get a pin in it. Have you latexed over one before?
     
  8. BLINCO94

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    That was the first time I came across it. The fella what I was with that day, he said he had never came across it in the 40 years what he had been doing it also.
     
  9. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    You wasn't working in Bagshot or basingstoke was you?
     
  10. BLINCO94

    BLINCO94 Well-Known Member

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    Nope, hah. I was in Hayes in Middlesex. We've done work in the estate before aswell and not one of the houses what we worked in before had this type of black concrete sub-floor. Wierd, very wierd.
     
  11. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Ha, they must of had a bit left over when they built Bagshot green, and it's ended up in a house in Hayes!
     
  12. Manny39

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    Never seen it either
     
  13. mjfl

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  14. BLINCO94

    BLINCO94 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, hahah.

    I don't even think that would work mate.
     
  15. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    sounds like power floated.

    Power floated concrete can look very dark in color. Almost like its wet.

    Nomally very smooth like Glass.

    Careful, it can take up to 20+ years to get below 75% RH . Almost always needs a suface DPM. Has to be abraded first.
     
  16. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    No it's jet black and more of a mat finish, Ive seen power floated concrete when I fitted vinyl in securitas vault. Like you say it was shiny and very very hard
     
  17. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    power floated with additive for cure speed and extra strength.
     
  18. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Great, cure speed, sounds good. I will check the moisture in it then
     
  19. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    cure speed as in how long until it can take traffic / loads. Normally it ends up trapping moister so takes even longer to dry (moister content) . Reason why it looks even darker in colour.
     
  20. tarkett85

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    well that's sounding a pain hope it gets sorted mate
     

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