Clicking short (end) joints

Discussion in 'Vinyl / Impervious floor coverings' started by Benali, Jan 19, 2022.

  1. Benali

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    I recently laid some luvanto endure pro (click)
    I’ve noticed a few of the short end joints can potentially slightly disengage and then click back into place.
    This is the plank with the 1mm built in underlay and if you put your foot adjacent to the short joint the plank can deflect enough to partially disengage the click joint and it then clicks back into place when you put your foot on the other side of the joint. It doesn't do it on all joints but just a few of them. But its starting to annoy me.
    So, is the luvanto just a crap click system or is this typical of most lvp click systems?
    The edge trim is not down yet, so it’s not a big problem to lift a few areas and try to rectify. Was thinking maybe some glue on the offending joints.
    Any other thoughts on what to do?
     
  2. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    Is your floor underneath flat and level? Or you got dips here and there?
     
  3. Benali

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    Well the floor is not perfect but its pretty good imo.
    But if I take some off-cuts to replicate a short joint, I can produce the same scenario on a perfectly flat worktop. Just by pushing hard in the middle of the one side adjacent to the joint.
    The built in 1mm underlay gives the one side opportunity with enough localised pressure to deflect enough so the joint can just start to come apart.
     
  4. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    Dodgy click system then if it does the same on a perfectly flat surface
     
  5. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    It’s a poor clic system by the sound of it. The kitchen fitter and builders have clocked this as they throw loads of clic down. Most of them glue the Joins. That will probably void your manufacturing warranty tho so….


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  6. Benali

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    Its not really that bad and only a few of them seem to do it. You have to put your heel in the middle of the width right adjacent to the joint.
    Of course now I know its there, I find myself trying to click it all the time.
    Yeah, its a crap system imo. Dunno if its just luvanto or wether others do it.
    Tbf a couple of the planks were pulled up and back down when pattern repition needed sorting.
    I think the process of making and breaking the click joint must degrade its integrity.
    Anyway, I will need to glue a few joints for piece of mind.
    What glue is the next question?
     
  7. Distinctive Adam

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    Sounds like the click system has been broken on install, if there’s a faint white line running down the underside of the plank which the click system is, that will be what it is, if it’s not that, faulty batch maybe
     
  8. Benali

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    The joints are not broken.
    But a lot of them are just not strong enough.
    Going to contant Luvanto and see what they say, but can't imagine they will come up with a satisfactory solution.
    20sqm down in a complex room, just about to put the skirtings back on.:(
     

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  9. @Benali Did you ever get a reply back from Luvanto? I was looking at their floor vs QuickStep laminate or Parador SPC and would like to know if its any good.
     
  10. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    Quickstep all the way.
    I've never had any issues fitting it and fits together nicely, not had any comebacks from any customers either
     
  11. Benali

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    They had an indepent specialist come the assesst the floor. He even agreed it was clicking and said it was normal!
    Luvanto kept telling me the subfloor must be at fault and I should re-do it and all would be ok (it wasn't even inspecty!)
    Btw subfloor was well within tolerance.
    I threatened trading standards and then I soon recieved a full refund (for the materials only of course)
    I glued it all up. No clicking now but joints are not exactly perfectly flat.
    I will live with it for now. It's sort of ok.
    My advice, don't go anywhere near this stuff, many other far superior products available!
     

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