Preparation issues

Discussion in 'Subfloor Preparation' started by Chunks, Apr 6, 2018.

  1. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    :eek: Oh my god
     
  2. Neilydun

    Neilydun Well-Known Member

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    That is one very strange combo !!
     
  3. coolevilangel

    coolevilangel Well-Known Member

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    Etringite crystals (not sure if that’s spelled correctly pmsl)
     
  4. coolevilangel

    coolevilangel Well-Known Member

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    Def sounds like they have zero clue what they doing, once it’s all lifted, source another company that has exp with gypsum etc
     
  5. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Something like that ;)
     
  6. Chunks

    Chunks Active Member

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    I read something about Etringite crystals but it didn’t really say what they were, or what the problem with them is.
     
  7. Chunks

    Chunks Active Member

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    Anyone cover, or can anyone recommend someone who covers Sheffield?
     
  8. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    They are caused by the chemical reaction you get when you put wet cement on gypsum / Calcium sulphate and they stop the two products but bonding

    Strangely if you put wet gypsum / Calcium sulphate products on dry cement it doesn’t happen o_O
     
  9. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    It's a bit like... I can go on top but you can't.. Is that what you mean..
     
  10. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Lol that’s one way too put it :rolleyes:
     
  11. nevertrever2

    nevertrever2 Well-Known Member

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    Pm me your number We are from Leeds and can grind your floor and install your karndean, we install lvt over gypsum on most of the work we do for a builder, he uses it all the time for his extensions.
     
  12. AngryAndy

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    Get a report done before you pull it all up. It will determine exactly what is wrong & what is needed to put it right, and most importantly you will probably need it if this all goes legal.
     
  13. Chunks

    Chunks Active Member

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    They've come an started removing it. Two days, and still need to come back for another. They used a machine with a 'blade' on the front and have gone through lots of blades. The screed underneath is fairly scored, but I guess that was inevitable.

    They've said the screed is powdery underneath and is showing damp on the meter.

    Now saying there's something wrong with the screed, maybe something left out of the mix, and laying blame on that. Also saying they showed a photo to a builder and he said that laitance doesn't look like that, etc.
     
  14. Chunks

    Chunks Active Member

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    This is the powdery floor that they've sanded and said just keeps on with powder.
     

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  15. Chunks

    Chunks Active Member

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    Here's where a plank was left on the floor, guessing showing the moisture
     

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  16. Chunks

    Chunks Active Member

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    And a close up of the area, which I'm guessing (as I can see aggregates) shows the laitance has come off at the same time.
     

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  17. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    That’s exactly what it should look like after the Laitance on the top has been removed

    There’s nothing wrong or missing from it

    And builders know nothing so don’t listen

    Needs a good vacuum and get the UFH running to help dry it out

    Don’t let them do anything else until it’s dry
    Probably two weeks but obviously it needs to be tested with a hydrometer with UFH off
     
  18. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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  19. Chunks

    Chunks Active Member

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    Thanks Spacey. Just to confirm my first photo of the powdery bit, that is still laitance isn't it and needs scraping to look like photo 3?

    Would you still say it's 'baked' and would need grinding, or do you think that can be sanded? UFH water temperature hasn't been out of the 20s. Usually sits at 20, which is the lowest, otherwise it gets too hot.

    Your photo is darker than mine. I do have a very clean site.
     
  20. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes you need to see the aggregate on all of it like photo 3

    Don’t worry about the colour difference it will just be a slightly different product
     

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