Tucking straight stairs?

Discussion in 'Carpet / Textile' started by stan1191, Oct 21, 2020.

  1. stan1191

    stan1191 Well-Known Member

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    Having a look through the FITA fb page the other day, noticed a comment questioning underlay being short on the sides of straight steps by a couple of mm. The FITA endorsed fitter said he was taught that way, to cut the stair carpet a couple of mm over and then tuck it all.

    I was taught and always have butted the underlay to the skirting,and cut the straight stairs bang on so they sit flush.

    Gave the tuck method a go yesterday and wasnt impressed with the carpet falling to bits on the edge as most stuff does these days.

    Is my method Right or wrong? Or Is it just Preference i guess
     
  2. nevertrever2

    nevertrever2 Well-Known Member

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    I cut underlay short, carpet over by 4mm, crimp and stretch fit from bottom up, I don't know anyone who cuts stairs net, do use seam sealer on the edges?
     
  3. HC&F

    HC&F Well-Known Member

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    Same
     
  4. stan1191

    stan1191 Well-Known Member

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    No, but ive also been back in alot of the homes,often years later and theres never an issue with the edge.
     
  5. Neilydun

    Neilydun Well-Known Member

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    Net fit, no seam sealer, no problem
     
  6. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    That was me on FB I think.
     
  7. Robroy

    Robroy Well-Known Member

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    if its a loop pile its net plus a row, anything else i just cut it a tinest bit bigger
     
  8. Simon Grimley

    Simon Grimley Well-Known Member

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    I tend to cut underlay short and carpet slightly fat.
    One day I’ll try grippering the sides to see if that helps. I’ve been told it does but never done it.
     
  9. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    I cut underlay short and carpet few mm over and roll edges before I place it mostly. Loop I either cut net aswell as the underlay...or get back in my van and do a runner, hate loop these days :rolleyes:
    Saxony I cut net and same with underlay.

    If the steps are not same size all the way down then depending what I'm fitting then I tend the gripper the sides an go with a tuck.
     
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  10. Glenn H

    Glenn H Well-Known Member

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    Cut net, Everything.
     
  11. Scf

    Scf Well-Known Member

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    Gripper just short, underlay the same and carpet a few mm big. Not many stair cases measure the same at the back and front so gives you a little play to tuck and get neat.

    What does everyone do with sisal?
     
  12. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    Never touch it!
     
  13. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Blind grippers Double stuck
     
  14. Samson

    Samson Well-Known Member

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    No one has a clue what they are doing. Would you net cut against the skirting board in a room? or leave a loop pile without a tuck in a room?
     
  15. stan1191

    stan1191 Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering when you would turn up with your dribble. Keep bashing them skirting boards with that metal bolster pal.
     
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  16. Samson

    Samson Well-Known Member

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    Stan, I advised four north east of England department stores on installation techniques. Tell me about your trade
    experience?
     
  17. stan1191

    stan1191 Well-Known Member

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    Arent you a big man then. Just because youve advised a store doesnt make you correct. After all, we all know people whove fit the wrong way for 30 years. Every post you make is negative and insulting like youre something special, and youre not.

    People often only know what theyre taught, and asking is part of learning. Stop being a c***
     
  18. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    I usually cut stairs in nett. Use to do a lot of Brintons and Axminster and always cut it Nett or it would ripple. I did see a good way to slightly over cut stairs at a Floorskills course. So you can have couple mm over on the stair carpet and tuck it. Makes sense to learn that way too as it makes it a bit easier. Does come in handy for staircases with bowed stringers instead of trimming each step in as you go


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  19. Nick58

    Nick58 Well-Known Member

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    Hack it in net with a hook blade.

    spray glue the hell out of each tread On the sh#ite u/lay

    And say that’ll do :D
     
  20. Samson

    Samson Well-Known Member

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    Here's some dribble for you then:

    Fit the underlay and the gripper about 5mm short of the stringer, but no more than this.

    Cut the carpet about 2-3mm wider than the stair width.

    Lay the stair carpet on the floor with the pile facing up, and pre-crimp/curl/roll the sides. This needs to be done very tightly, not loosely, and as close to the edge as possible. The pre-crimping is what stops the width of the stair carpet buckling, bowing or rucking when fitted.

    With a loop pile, cut from the top rather than from the backing, and add a loop or two larger than the stair width. Loop pile carpet can 'break' between the rows when crimping , so exercise great care and softly roll the edge a little further in.

    Same method with sisal, but this product will only allow a limited amount of excess.

    Install, using a curved stair tool to partially feed the edges in place before stretching. Once stretched and bolstered, tidy up the sides with the curved stair tool, feeding the width into the channel as though it was gripper, to tuck away all raw edges.
     
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