Which do you rate? I was told in another post that some of you don't like 700 flex anymore. What do you think is best? I have only used laybond wood smooth which is ok but not great.
I actually put them in the reverse order of Matt I think there's little in it but personal preference with these three. Put it this way I don't worry too much about which of those I would use. Ball 700 is just the easiest for me to get.
It seems most fitters in the UK are big FBall fans, is it because they don't like change. I think there are much better product's available.
When a few of you are saying you use Fballs products, is that because you use them every day so stick with it? Have you tried the Mapie compounds for instance? Or do you just stick with what you know works?
Honestly Matt I stick with what i know works. Dont want to take risks on a (new to me) product that may affect the outcome/quality of a job. That said i do pay a lot of attetntion to what the majority of other guys on here and other forums im a member on have to say on dif products :smile:
Never had problems with mixing 700 like what! just done 30 bags not one problem very smooth, Karndean on top. Steve
Never had any problems with 700 that's why I stick with it. Layabonds I've found to be like chewing gum. As for Uzin well I steer clear of all their screed after a nasty experience using their screed, we were doing a big job floor to ceiling windows and the company I was working for at the time decided to go with their product cause it was on offer, they got the rep out and technical who surveyed the areas to be done and said their screed would be fine and would perform exactly as we wanted it to. During the pour of the screed their rep and technical guy who done the survey were on site assisting us as this was a new product to us and they offered to help and guide us through the process. The job had to be turned round quickly, the next day we noticed areas starting to blow and pop off the floor, they put it down to contamination and said strip out the offending areas patch and carry on which we did. Around a month later the whole lot had blown all over it had come clean off the sub-floor including their primmer, and guess what the boss called them up and spoke to them about it and they said we must've done something wrong, well you can imagine the air turned blue I mean come on how could we have got it wrong when they were their supervising. And with that the boss said to them don't ever call me and don't ever send any of your reps to my office cause if you do there will be trouble and slammed the phone down. F Balls came and had a look and also helped him out in shouldering some of the expense. After that he never used another screed only F Balls.
what was the reason for it blowing. Water based screeds that show signs of blowing within 48 hrs is normaly moister related. But you say the primer had blown? For primer to blow i thake it that the fllor you was going over was sealed? power floated concrete maybe? If so then Fballs primer would stick to this but Uzins standard primers wont, only there two part epoxy primer that most dont use. What was the reason why it blew?
That is why so many manufacturers do free training. They want you to feel comfortable with their products and and you might go for years exclusively using their products. I'm exactly the same but I use F ball due to availability but also a lot of it is product familiarity.
Never really discovered what the reason was as they would not come back out to site, the slab wasn't power floated so I just don't know and F Balls would not comment on it so we never got to the bottom of it. I think maybe the PH scale or Alkaline in the sub-floor was high or possibly the latience who knows no tests were carried out. So your guess is as good as mine.
I used Uzin while working in Germany in the 90's and thought it was great. I called them several times to get some training as their main office used to be quite local to me, no one ever called back. Shame really as I like's a day off watching someone else mixing up and a few free sarnie's at lunchtime..
Sorry for the my delayed response, just woke up! Got 4 kids Steve, it's like a load of fire engines coming in your room as soon as the sun comes up!
I have known this happen when Calcium Sulphate subfloor's have been screeded over with normal screed's? Could have been the cause?
I've used water based screeds( Stopgap 300) several times on calcium sulphate /anhydrate/ gyvlon screeds. Isn't the difference in the preparation. First the screed needs sanding to remove the laitance and then primed neat with an acrylic primer (as opposed to a neoprene primer). I can't see many domestic fitters being aware of this and charging on as normal. I came across my first calcium sulphate screed only two years ago as wooden floors much more common in my area.
