Air Nailers

Discussion in 'Tool Chat' started by dazlight, May 18, 2011.

  1. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Gutted, uplift hell today for me. bit of flotex that felt like it was stuck down with f3 using a ceramic tilers trowel. first time ive had the electric scraper out for over a year. Im glad it still works
     
  2. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    electric scraper???
    Tell me more.......
     
  3. coolevilangel

    coolevilangel Well-Known Member

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    Would that be like the handheld wolff 240v strippers?
     
  4. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    You know, like a bully scraper? for taking up stuck down carpet and vinyl.
     
  5. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Not as posh as wolff, Mines a Refina, poor mans version. does the job tho
     
  6. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Maybe you should try changing a different method of installing ply Daz.

    Instead of using 9mm plywood to mask a bad floor (i presume you mean uneven boards / cupping etc) then try to fix the issue first.

    I always try and put down 4mm plywood, less height on the floor overal and a cheaper product to start with. But as we all know teh sub floor needs to be spot on for 4mm ply to start with.

    So why not get it spot on to start with?


    Here i s what i do, if i get to a job and the floorboards are badly cupped i plane and sand them smooth. I then install the plywood. Normally 4mm and sometimes 6mm depending on teh finish i have just got.

    Now you dont need expensive equipment here. Go to B&Q and buy a cheap planer and a cheap sander. You should pic them up for around £30 quid each. Now with how cheap they are it doesn't matter how much you abuse them , they will last a fair few jobs and its not going to kill the bank balance if they do break. (You have 12 month guaranty) . You will be amazed how quick you will get the floorboard smooth. Yes the finish on the floorboards will be rough but your not going for looks, you are trying to get the floor flat.
     
  7. coolevilangel

    coolevilangel Well-Known Member

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    I was always led to believe we couldnt use 4mm ply coz its too thin & addy would penetrate it causing delamination.
    And all the manufacturers state min of 6mm?
    What do you use 4mm for matt?
     
  8. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    You can use 4mm plywood on any job your doing providing the subfloor is already flat and smooth. That being a subfloor like chipboard for instance. You can use on top of floorboards also providing there already smooth which is how i get them before i lay the plywood.

    I am basically laying plywood to cover up the gaps between the boards, NOT to try and take out dips in the subfloor.

    As for adhesive breaking down the glue. This is not correct. One adhesive will not penetrate plywood that deep. And more important, you should be using flooring grade plywood, flooring grade is wbp. WBP is water resistant. It can cope with the odd amount of moister. Its not sutible for being dipped in water for a length of time but its resistant to water.
     
  9. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Thats handy to know
     
  10. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    O and to add, 6mm plywood is advised due to small discrepancy's in the subfloor.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with 6mm plywood or 9mm or what ever you want to use, but why use it when you dont need to ?
     
  11. coolevilangel

    coolevilangel Well-Known Member

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    I mustve mis read all this time, was sure it was 'must' be min 6mm used lol :?
    Again, handy to know
     
  12. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    You may be correct in what they say. But ist a load of bollox. Bit like when you buy a new car, they say the dealer must service the car. Its not true and in court they dont stand a chance.

    However, if you have issue with a flooring product and its down to subfloor prep, well that is your own issue. If you have a fault with a floors wear layer or delaminating etc and the manufactures say its because you used 4mm plywood, well again they would not have a leg to stand on in court as it will have nothing to do with the floor prep. I will personally come out to that job and do a full report for you !
     
  13. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    What kind of plane Matt, electric one? cause have one. would my multi tool work for sanding. never thought of sorting the floor boards out before
     
  14. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Electric plane mate. Buy a cheap on. Dont use a good one as you will be hitting nails and all types with it.

    As for a sander, you want a belt sander. 40 grit paper
     
  15. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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  16. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    Thanks Matt :D
     
  17. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    By the way if any 1 is looking for mixing, sanding, or grinding equipment Refina catalogue is worth looking at. Spiked rollers and paint rollers are good prices too.
     
  18. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    Got my plane today Matt, just need a belt sander now
     

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