F46

Discussion in 'Vinyl / Impervious floor coverings' started by Andrew70, Nov 9, 2011.

  1. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    LIKE ;)
     
  2. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    SO what's the procedure for getting a plank up that has been stuck on 46 if it needs replacing 1 month later[/quote]


    Simply pull it up. If the subfloor was primed before putting the adhesive down a plank will pull out without adhesive coming up.

    F46 has very poor strength pulling upwards. Its strength is in sideways movement. People worry about the strength of F46 as they can pull flooring up easy. Dont forget that flooring does not go through upwards stress. Its always sideways stress like when the sun is heating the floor ;)

    I presume you dont use F46 mate?
     
  3. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    Did you say a while back amtico and Karndean ps is not a true ps Matt ? Whys that?
     
  4. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    I do, just wanted you to say the above that's all... ;)
     
  5. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Amtico / karndean adhesive dont work the same as F46 or Mapei's PS.

    Basically they have a open time that you have to lay into them.

    There just not as good in my opinion to the Fball or Mapei adhesives.
     
  6. tarkett85

    tarkett85 Well-Known Member

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    which do you prefer Fball or Mapei's
     
  7. Robroy

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    I'm confused , so you may as well leave the planks in the garage the night before you fit them ? :?
     
  8. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    A constant room temp

    why a hand roller??
     
  9. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    As they state that it should be a 68kg roller i think it is.

    You can tell by looking at the adhesive spread if one was used. But with HT if it goes off a little to much it gives the impression that a 68kg roller was not used. Another one of them things that void warranty :shock:
     
  10. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Yep.

    For some reason the manufactures tell you to acclimatice LVT the same as you would for wood flooring. Difference is tho-

    Wood flooring is acclimatised so that its moister content should match the are its being fitted in.

    LVT / Vinyl Is acclimatised to the rooms temperature. Like i say, if that room happens to be warmer than normal the LVT flooring will shrink when fitted.
     
  11. coolevilangel

    coolevilangel Well-Known Member

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    I understand/agree with the fitting tiles at a cooler temp than the floor.
    But do not get the thinking of fitting tiles when their Baltic cold from being in a garage
    There's fitting them 'colder' and there's fitting them like their straight outa fridge
    If its too cold then there's gonna be tenting everywhere
    A happy medium I get, but not the whole 'leave em in the garage' mentality'
    If the room is for example a conservatory which does get hot etc, then leave the tiles in an adjacent room, away from direct sun etc. not in the garage lol ;)
    Well that's my understanding, but I'm always happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.... :D
     
  12. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    You have to use your head mate.


    Basically you need to be fitting the plank a little colder than what the rooms average temperature would be while your likely to be using the room.

    So if we said the average temp of a room would be say 18c then i would say ideally you want to be installing at around 15-16c maybe?

    Over our summer months a garage is normally the best bet for these temps. But it could still be a lot higher. If its above these temps then you will need a AC unit to bring temps down.

    But likewise. If it -2c outside you would be a bit daft keeping the flooring in a unheated garage and then fitting. As you say it will tent.


    Im working on the best temps to fit at the moment mate. I have a problem that im still waiting for colder weather LOL. My test area would need a massive aircon unit to cool it down!
     
  13. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    I do use a 68kg roller when finished, but use a hand roller as I go to make sure the plank makes total contact with HT before it dries.
    Hope that make sense
    As I say, never had a problem
     
  14. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    errhh, aint that what I said?
     
  15. bladerunner

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    Matt is saying that via general confidence and experience, then its up to you to know at what temp the acclimatising balance should be before fitting commences.
     

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