Gripper on Concrete

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  1. Tomhood

    Tomhood Member

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    Hi all

    I’ve recently started doing some new build work and struggling with the concrete floors, edges all covered in overspray from the painters so without scraping all the paint off can’t prime/glue with fast grip like I usually would as & golden concrete gripper nails don’t seem to want to play ball.. is it best to invest in a gas nailer or stop being soft and smack the nails harder?

    Advice greatly appreciated


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  2. merit

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    Have you tried flexi fix? I’ve got a concrete nailer but never really use it for gripper. Should only need a couple of fixings if you flexi it down


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  3. Tomhood

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    I haven’t tried it no, will get a box. So would you still be cutting into bits or glueing/nailing full lengths? Paint seems to be the problem, when I’ve glued in the past grips just lift off as the paint isn’t bonded to the concrete but no chance I’d be able to scrape it all up?


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  4. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Have you got a multitiool with a sanding pad attachment?
    Sand the paint off
     
  5. merit

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    You won’t need to cut it down if you can get a few fixings


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  6. Neilydun

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    Im guessing you have tried removing the nails, and the fixing them at the back of the gripper ?
    Normally the pre nailed gripper has nails at all sorts of directions and there a twat to fix
     
  7. Tomhood

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    No I haven’t, all this nailing gripper lark is brand new to me, I was taught to always glue! I’ll give that a go. Thank you!


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  8. Samson

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    Nailing into concrete is cave man. Haven't done it since about 1990.
     
  9. Neilydun

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    Don`t see the problem. So long as its fixed, why is it caveman ?
     
  10. Paul webb

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    It is if you're hammering them in with a club lol
     
  11. Tomhood

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    I did wonder whether a club hammer would help


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  12. stan1191

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    Only issue i ever get with newbuild concrete is if its powerfloated, depending how much stone they use it can be crap and i just end up glueing it, gas nailer wont work on powerfloat. Other than that you need to find a good hammer with a flat face, none of the rounded head crap everyone seems to sell. £3 b and q hammer, best ive ever owned. Think its a rolson one.

    Gas nailer is really good for floors that are cracking everywhere, but be warned, mine has broken twice now each time within 10k shots, 3 weeks to send it off and £75 a time to fix. The metal bit that strikes the nail into the concrete keeps snapping.
     
  13. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I never use to nail grips on concrete Always cut to 6 inch strips and glue down
     
  14. Rugmunching

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    This happened to me with my coil nailer just this week. Driver bar, every other model its £25 except for mine which of course had to be £60 :rolleyes:
     
  15. Tomhood

    Tomhood Member

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    Like a brick hammer?
     
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  17. Samson

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    1/ Damaging underfloor services with risk of flooding etc.
    2/ Denting skirting boards when nails bend or angle
    3/ Nails not taking securely into substrate or concrete
    4/ Close gripper gap being not possible or irregular
    5/ Risk of nail heads snapping and causing injury
    6/ Possibility of compromise of DPM
    7/ Risk of damage to fixed furniture, units, etc.
    8/ Outdated technology
    9/ Looks unprofessional
    10/ Can disturb and break asbestos thermoplastic tiles.
     
  18. Samson

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    I always have taught to cut 5' lengths into thirds, and to glue onto the high spots of the floor. Keeps the finish nice and level when the floor undulates, and avoids all of the dips. A good quality glue gun will cope nicely with these lengths.
     
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    11/ Not possible or practical to do this with masonry nails:


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    12/ Would you hammer masonry nails around a toilet pan and pedestal?
     

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