Help!, bitumen DPM on vinyl tiles

Discussion in 'Subfloor Preparation' started by rulloyd, Feb 1, 2014.

  1. rulloyd

    rulloyd Member

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    Hi Matt. Thanks for the advice. I was planning to use the dunlop single part self smoothing levelling compound (http://www.dunlop-adhesives.co.uk/uploads/2009/12/Smoothing-Levelling-compound.pdf is this OK? I don't see any mention of strength?

    I see you have recommended Ardex products in past posts. Are you still recommending DPM 1C & P82 primer? (I presume the primer isn't just PVA?) or is there a more cost effective alternative?

    Many thanks, sorry for my ignorance (I am trying to guide our fitter).

    Cheers
     
  2. DM Flooring

    DM Flooring Well-Known Member

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    Think you need to get a fitter who knows what he is doing this is all stuff he should know or be asking.
     
  3. mjfl

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  4. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Lol I thought that was going to be one of those BandQ vids !
     
  5. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Simple answer is no i would not use that product.

    Im all for helping out people on the forum with certain stuff they don't understand. Like what ratio to mix a primer for example. But what your asking for, is basically a total start to finish of how to prepare and install. You might not think your asking for that...... but as i / we reply to the bits your asking, well it will keep on going as what your asking is the total basics a flooring installer should know. We have not even scratched the surface yet of what you need to know / should know as a installer.

    So, in simple terms im not prepared to write a step by step guide from start to finish (sorry). Im sure the other forum users would not be happy if i did either.

    I also get the idea that no matter what we say to you, well you don't want to employ a professional to do the job for you. However you seem keen to use the chippy ?

    What im going to suggest is simple and the only way i think your going to end up with your flooring installed 'dare i say it' correctly- book yourself on one of my courses.

    I say book 'yourself' as its you trying to research and find out how to the job to pass on to your chippy. If your chippy really had a interest in learning how to install correctly, well they would be booking themselves on a course.

    Book yourself on a www.floorskills.co.uk course and learn for yourself how to install correctly. Then do it yourself instead of using a chippy who does not know what they are doing . I promise you you will get better results than the chippy your using now. You will learn what products you should be using etc.

    Sorry but thats as far as im prepared to go with advice on this thread.
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2014
  6. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    no mate.. don't promote those silly ones...
     
  7. rulloyd

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    Ok. However, the person I employed was the result of a google search on local wooden floor fitters. I read his reviews on an independant site which is why I employed him. Call me ignorant but I thought that a carpenter would be the right person for a wooden floor.

    No specialist floor fitters showed up in my search - so anyone annoyed reading my posts 'depriving them of work' might want to sort out their advertising. Of course I can see now that employing a specialist would have been better and given what I know now that's what I would do. However, this is a well meaning guy with 30 years of joining under his belt. I committed to him at the start and call me soft but I am not about to deprive him of the business given that he is doing his best to sort it out at his cost. He like all of us needs the work - and like you he is a professional - but not a floor specialist unfortunately. I have no doubt that when we get to laying the wood he will do a great job.

    So thanks for the advice up to now. Sorry you feel unable to help further.

    No negative replies please, I cry easily.
     
  8. dazlight

    dazlight Super Moderator

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    Give my mate a ring, he's very busy but might be able to help you out. Will pm you his details.
     
  9. Wes

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    That is quality. A 'how not to install a wood floor' video by someone that doesn't know what he's talking about :lol: Made my day that :D

    Rulloyd - Your best bet is to call or rather get your installer to call technical at mapei or ardex or f-ball. They should help you out with specific products. They'll probably have to advise on full spec as there's been no sub-floor moisture readings taken. You're in a slight grey area there..

    You should also research testing room humidity and consider the future climate of the room. Also research the moisture content of the timber. Your flooring manufacturer should have all this information in their literature.

    All the best with it :)
     
  10. rulloyd

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    Will do. Thanks Wes, appreciated.
     
  11. mjfl

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