If i know that the flooring 'may' fail i wont do the job. I will tell the customer to replace the subfloor if they want me to install a expensive floorcovering for them. Belive it or not, most decide to have the subfloor replaced. Guess this is down to what sort of customers you have. However, i will bend the rules depending on who the customer is and install on subfloors that should be replaced or shot blasted etc. This is always at customers risk. Hence i only do this for selected people. End of the day its going to either work or fail. The person i do this work for knows this before i carry on with the install.However, be very carfull ! soem customers will soon back track when things go wrong and blame you. Get a disclaimer stating that this is a experimental floorcovering and failer is expected in the near future and you can not be held responsable !
Ye jumpax is o.k. However again its not recommended on Damp floors even with a plastic membrane. The Plastic membrane is a vapiour barrier and not to be used as a DPM. I personally don't like fitting LVT on Jumpax. Sheet materials or other floating systems are fine. End of the day the subfloor should be replaced with a Subfloor that meets British Standards. If you got to a job and the floorboards / joists etc was rotten or full of wood worm etc would you still install the flooring? Or would you tell the customer its needs to be replaced? Remove and laying new concrete is no different to changing the floorboards when they are not fit for purpose.
think its about the justification to the customer matt Theres a huge dif 'seeing the problem' as opposed to being told theres a problem. example: i had a bedroom to do for a customer before xmas last yr floorboards down, took readings..Waaayyyy off the charts, some serious damp Told her forget it and to get it fixed before anything could go down It helped as there was a visible smell of damp too. She got a joiner in, had to rip up the entire floor and start again. result.. She saw the problem, understood wood and lying water =rott etc, dont mix etc and got it done. Show someone who hasnt a clue that their solid concrete floor is damp and tell them it'll have to get ripped up and replaced will look at me like im touched..(unless its visible to be fair) Most of the concrete floors that ive 'failed' have to a laymen looked perfect. You know dif, i know dif but mr smith doesnt, all he sees is someone telling him hes got to spend X amount to get an 'invisible problem' sorted. Think theres a fine line between what works in 'best practice' and the real world where everyone wants a job done but that doesnt have to remortgage the house to do so.. :? thoughts?
Your problem is tho, when you cover up the issue and the floor fails it is you that has to replace the floor. I will always advice the customer about the issue and if they don't want to spend the money having the floor put right then i simply wont take the job on. Like you say tho, some people cant understand the issue.
You misunderstand me Matt. I'd never 'cover up' the fact a floor was unfit for use. I'd explain to the customer what the prob was and take it from there. Its just not practical to walk away from every problem job though, works tough enough to come by as it is without turning the other way lol I'd tell them what the prob was, explain why it should be addressed and possible pitfalls if its not. If they still dont want to do it the proper way then what do i do? Someones going to get the job, id rather it be me. Disclaimer stating they were advised by a professional, but declined. Signed, dated etc etc And hope for the best..
